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Zillow Mortgage Launches - How do you rate?

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Zillow launched its mortgage product tonight and from my review of the platform seem to have taken a major step in the right direction when it comes to leveraging the internet to provide consumers with quality mortgage options without the treachery that is online lead generation. I had a sneak peak at the platform and I’m duly impressed at the way Zillow has put consumers in control of the transaction right from the start.

You’ll see the new Mortgage Marketplace as a new tab in Zillow’s home page navigation and there are two paths once you get to the marketplace, either as a lender or as a borrower. If you remember about a month ago Zillow started taking lender applications to prime the system to be ready for this day. I made a big deal out of the vetting that went in to the application process and I’ll go in to detail now about why that was such a big deal. The lender side isn’t that sexy, so let’s talk about what the Zillow Mortgage Marketplace means for the consumer.

Accurate information without the hounding

The paradigm-shifting change at Zillow is the separation of the consumer’s contact information from the loan information.  This gives the consumer total anonymity when soliciting mortgage quotes which is something that must sound like music to consumers’ ears.  With this one move Zillow has eliminated a MAJOR pain point for borrowers shopping online for a mortgage.  

The number one complaint we received from internet-based leads was that they had been hounded to death on the phone for business.  I knew of a lady who lost her job because her office line rang incessantly after she filled out a lead on lowermybills.com.  People turn off their phones, unplug their home phones and generally do whatever they can to avoid be hounded to death once their information gets out on the internet.  

Zillow allows them to 100% control the interaction by getting custom mortgage quotes by providing their scenario in a standard pre-qual format (their interface is pretty similar to a typical online prequalification form you’d see elsewhere - Zillowfied of course) minus their personal information.  Zillow has made it a bit more user-friendly by helping people estimate their credit scores through a series of questions and have also made the mortgage product choices easier by eliminating some of the more exotic programs from the quote options.

Once a consumer submits this anonymous quote lenders in the system can “bid” on the quote. They can quote rates, fees and terms that are submitted with a brief introductory paragraph from them as well as their picture and a link to their profile page.  The principal and interest payments are automatically calculated by Zillow based on the loan program, term and fees and the taxes and insurance are estimated based on property records (Zestimate?) so that there can’t be any manipulation of those numbers.  

Consumers are presented these quotes as they arrive and when they find one they like they can choose to contact the lender directly and share any additional information they choose to at that next step.  They are never bothered by unsolicited phone calls or emails.

The Originator Rating

In addition to the quotes that they receive that come packaged with an intro paragraph, easy-to-understand terms and pre-calculated payments the originators submitting the quote carry ratings with them of 0 to 5.  These ratings are calculated based on consumer feedback after dealing with the originator.  The ratings have nothing to do with fees or loan terms and everything to do with the process of working with that lender.  So if there were changes in the loan, or things seemed shady or uncertain consumers can rate that originator poorly, and vice-versa.

Loan originators who feel wrongly scored can rebut the poor score and all of it is kept with their profile to provide consumers the clear picture of who they are dealing with.  They can now determine whether they want to work with the person with the lowest rates and fees and a low rating, or pick someone with a higher rating that has higher fees.

I think this is a great step towards providing transparency for consumers and an easy-to-understand scoring system that allows them to make choices in a difficult decision-making environment.  Of course, Zillow will have to police the marketplace and eliminate offenders on both sides of the wall, ensuring that slanderous consumers don’t blackball innocent lenders and vice-versa; but the step is a positive one and one that should help consumers in their quest for an honest, straight-forward (non-blown) mortgage.

Originators get transparency too

In addition to the consumer getting multiple, anonymous offers the originators who are submitting the offer can see all of the other offers that the consumer has received and who has submitted those offers.  This is a great tool for originators to use as market intelligence - they now know who and what they are selling against.  They can talk intelligently about the universe of offers that the consumer has without having to sell without any information about what or who they are competing with.  I think this will be a big help in letting originators determine what customers they quote, how they quote and their overall strategy towards leveraging this platform.

The Code of Conduct

In addition to the upfront vetting that Zillow performs on originator-applicants Zillow has rolled out a Mortgage Marketplace “Code of Conduct” for all parties involved.  The code calls on consumers to be law-abiding, honest in their disclosure of income, credit and other material qualification criteria, and fair and reasonable in their rating of originators.  Originators are called on to be law-abiding, upfront, to stick to their original quotes as long as material facts don’t change from beginning to end, and to respect consumer’s in the marketplace regardless of what the consumer ultimately decides to do.

Zillow will of course play ombudsman in its sandbox and will bounce originators and consumers who use the marketplace in ways that Zillow deems unacceptable to a healthy environment.  This is at their sole discretion. 

Here are the highlights from the Zillow Code of Conduct, you can read the whole thing here:

Principles for Lenders

  • Stand behind your quotes
    Don’t provide lowball loan quotes and teaser rates to intentionally draw in a borrower and then “readjust” your quote. We alert borrowers that the anonymous nature of Loan Quotes prevents an initial quote from being a binding Good Faith Estimate; however, we expect you to stand by your quote if the information provided by the borrower is accurate.
  • Disclose all terms of the deal
    Be upfront and transparent with various rates and fees so that borrowers will regard you as a trusted lender. Do not hide details of the loan in fine print; our loan quote form is designed to easily identify these costs. Be ready to answer questions and walk borrowers through each step of the process. Helpful lenders will get good ratings on Zillow, leading to more business down the road.
  • Obey the law
    Discrimination in mortgage lending is prohibited by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development’s (HUD) Fair Housing Act and the Office of Fair Housing and Equal Opportunity actively enforces those provisions of the law. The Fair Housing Act makes it unlawful to engage in the following practices based on race, color, national origin, religion, sex, familial status or handicap (disability): 

    • Refuse to make a mortgage loan
    • Refuse to provide information regarding loans
    • Impose different terms or conditions on a loan, such as different interest rates, points, or fees
    • Discriminate in appraising property
    • Refuse to purchase a loan or set different terms or conditions for purchasing a loan
  • No spamming
    If you have made contact with a borrower and things didn’t work out, please be professional and end your contact with that person. Do not add their contact information to your promotional lists or provide their contact information to others unless you specifically ask for the borrower’s permission first.

Principles for Borrowers

  • Accuracy, accuracy, accuracy
    Be accurate when filling out mortgage loan requests, particularly when you estimate your credit score. Lenders will prepare quotes based on the information you provide. If you submit information that is not accurate, you will get loan quotes based on inaccurate information and the quote will likely need to be readjusted.
  • Rate/review mindfully
    You may rate any lender you’ve contacted through Zillow Mortgage Marketplace. However, your rating for a lender with whom you’ve closed a loan carries more weight because you experienced the full extent of the lender’s service. So, please rate thoughtfully so that others can benefit from your feedback. 

    • If you contacted a lender, but did not close — Your rating should be based on how responsive a lender was in providing a quote and follow-through during the process; it should not be based on the quote received.
    • If you contacted a lender and closed a loan with them - Your rating should be based on how responsive a lender was in providing a quote, finding the right loan for you, the rate and terms for the quote and follow-through during the closing process.
  • Report questionable or unscrupulous behavior
    While Lender Ratings is one of the most valuable tools you can use to rate the quality of a lender, we also want to know if you encounter any questionable practices by any lender. Contact Zillow Customer Support by e-mail at mortgagesupport AT zillow.com so that we can quickly respond if necessary. Also, if you feel you have been subject to discrimination, file a complaint with the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD).
  • Be informed and responsible
    There are scores of tools at your fingertips to help you evaluate the loan offers you receive from various lenders. We have assembled many of these in our Help Center. Take advantage of these and weigh your options and long-term implications before signing up for particular loan. 

Will originators use it?

The first question that came to my mind is would a high-quality originator use this?  I can’t imagine a Brian Brady spending his days blindly filling out GFE’s to ghosts who may or may not work with him.  It is feasible that a consumer gets upwards of 20-30 offers on a quote or more (it’s not restricted).  What is going to make Brian Brady use his time for a small chance win when he has a million other strategies that will result in higher close rates?  Knowing Brian he will find a way to succeed with this platform, leverage administrative resources of find a way to leverage this marketplace; but what about those who are good but don’t want to fire shots in the dark?

I think that’s the big question to be answered as this marketplace evolves.  Are the consumers getting lower-quality originators because the good ones don’t want to play consumer roulette with GFEs?  It will be interesting to see how it plays out as the marketplace evolves. 

A big step in the right direction

The online “lead” model has been broken since its inception and has caused irreparable harm to not only countless consumers but to the image of the industry as a whole.  People who bought and sold private data across convoluted networks of lead brokers abused people’s trust that the lead form they completed would be a great offer from 1 of 4 lenders.  This clearly has not worked.  Zillow puts the power in the consumer’s hands.  Now they can shop from hundreds of offers at their discretion from behind the Zillow wall of privacy which is certainly a step in the right direction; now the question is - will the best in our industry use it?

What do you think?

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Monday’s Blame Game: Dirty, Dirty AEs.

Dirty, Dirty A.Es.

Part of the problem that puts us where we are today is the way mortgages are sold. The process creates a ton of perverse incentives that cause an overall degrading of credit risk across the spectrum. Wholesalers bop into mortgage companies and talk about program highlights. They employ Account Executives (AEs) to communicate their messages. The AEs chat up how quickly they close loans, and what loans they are looking for. The originators are their customers. A good, knowledgeable rep is worth their weight in gold, because they know which exceptions their companies will and won’t take.

Originators generally have the choice of many different places to send their money. I myself use five total sources, but back in the subprime heyday, there were people in our office four and five times a day–minimum–trying to get us to send our clients to them.

Exceptions: The Rule in Lending

In a sea of sameness, these originators began to sell what exceptions–tough deals–their company took. First Franklin was the ’score driven’ lender, allowing people 12 hours out of their bankruptcy discharge to close loans. This “score driven” bias was a huge reason to send stuff to First Franklin because they could (in 2005) close loans when the borrower had thousands in money owed to bad credit card bills, judgments under 10k, and even Child Support. There were others.

The AEs began selling their “exceptions,” or “niches.” Things that they did that nobody else did. The now defunct Own It was notorious for doing high-loan-to-value loans for people that had no history of paying anything, ever. Do you see what happens?
Successful reps wanted to win, so they would get relationships with underwriters, and write to the LETTER of the guidelines negotiated with their securitizers. Crap loans–that were obviously crap loans–were not only accepted, they were sought after by reps and sales managers. “We’ll do that,” was the mantra of the highly aggressive, industrious and intelligent AE community.

Perverse Incentives

On more than ten occasions, I was told how to do a “phantom second” by a rep–essentially asking me to commit fraud against his own company. On more than five, it was put in writing. I was told to “throw away income docs,” and run it “stated”. And–from the perspective of the AE–they are paid to get acceptable loans. That’s their job, and the incentives were pretty perverse. If you were good at finding–and selling–the soft spots in your company, you get promoted to management, where you disseminate the information even faster. A partial verbatim niche sheet from a now (nearly) defunct lender (bonus points if you guess which lender in the comments).

  • unlimited 90 day lates if no NOD filed.
  • “Seller Seconds” fine with us (Note: quotes his, not mine)
  • 1 DAY OUT OF FORECLOSURE W/620 IF BANKRUPTCY 1 YEAR OLD.

So–the incentive to put volume above all other concerns–including quality–meant that lenders were actually trolling for business that we all knew HAD to be worse than risky. That it remained acceptable for so long was mostly because of the “popular because it’s popular” Ponzi effect of the Real Estate Boom. Once the prices dropped and the valve to “sell or refinance” was removed, well, the mortgages were all Blown.

Chris Johnson is a mortgage lender in Westerville, OH specializing in closing purchase loans in ten days or less. He can be found many places on the web, including here.

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Don’t you love mortgage marketing gone awry?

GMAC, one of the biggest losers in the subprime mortgage game is attempting to scare up business - literally.  Calculated Risk and Matt over at the OC Register point us to an article by Fortune Magazine senior writer Jon Birger who received a very ominous-worded piece of mail from GMAC about his mortgage:

Just consider the direct-mail solicitation I recently received from
GMAC Mortgage. The letter was addressed to me as a "Washington Mutual
Customer"- I have a 30-year, fixed-rate mortgage with WaMu - and it
began ominously: "You’ve probably read about it in the newspaper or
seen it on the nightly television news. Many mortgage lenders all
across the country are heading for financial trouble because they have
made too many questionable loans. Some lenders may even go out of
business. And what will become of the people who trusted those lenders
if that happens?"

Then came the kicker: "Allow us to help you refinance your mortgage with the rate and term that best suits your needs."

GMAC’s
pitch is absurd on so many levels I barely know where to begin. First
off, the letter implies if you have a conforming mortgage, as I do,
that you could somehow lose your mortgage should your lender go
bankrupt. That’s simply untrue. Sure, there could be some servicing
glitches should your loan be acquired by another bank, but that’s more
an annoyance than a genuine financial safety issue.

Birger goes on to highlight just how deceptive and misleading this advertisement is on many different levels.  While it is great that this type of practice is highlighted in the press it is nothing earth-shattering.  I received dozens of pieces of mail from lenders and brokers on a weekly basis - and I review each one.  At least 75% of them violate some of the advertising and disclosure laws as required by the state of California.

Scare tactics are not unusual in these mailings with bright red warning labels about adjusting interest rates and untapped home equity.  Misquoted interest rates, non-extistent APR and licensing disclosure are also at the top of the frequent offender list.

Jon is right - lenders are desperate.  Consider the letter I received from IndyMac a while back that came in a UPS Overnight envelope asking for me to "come back" (I’m a former IndyCrack customer).  This has to be a game of continuous diminishing returns.  Spend more and more on more and more desperate advertising to get less and less of a return. 

As the business dries up more businesses will resort to high-pressure and scare tactics.  If GMAC is doing it you can imagine what the "wild west" mortgage brokers are out there doing.  My advice?  If you get an unsolicited letter in the mail with an offer that sounds too good to be true - use it to train your new puppy or save a tree and recycle it. 

With any large financial decision, pick up the phone and contact a professional you trust.

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Marketers Unite to Bring Seth Godin to Orange County, CA!

If you’ve been following me from day one you have a decent idea that my background prior to mortgages is marketing.  As a major marketing geek I read and read and read Seth Godin’s works all the time.  Read is the wrong word - I devour them.  Anyone serious about marketing and business success in general should read Seth Godin’s stuff.

Seth has a new book coming out called The Dip and instead of going for the normal book tour he is setting up speaking engagements to audiences of 500 or more in cities that can recruit enough pledges to make it worth his while to make the trip.

Matt in Phoenix has already succeeded at signing up enough in the area for Seth to plan a trip out there, and I thought what a better way to make his trip worthwhile than by having him keep coming west!  I want to try to get Seth Godin to come to Orange County to speak to us.  You can learn about the details here - all you have to do is pay $50 (which is a bargain to hear him speak) and get as many of your friends to come with you too! 

Come sign up for this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity by joining my pledge here!  Pass it on!  And hurry, we’ve got two weeks to get 500 people just as interested as you and me!

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