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		<title>By: rcarrillo</title>
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		<dc:creator>rcarrillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 02:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikew-  Not only was their fraud at all levels, but banks are the ones that set the rules by which brokers had to work.  The bank sets the guidelines and hires, trains and supervises the underwriters that approve these loans.  They gave away &quot;free money&quot; at ridiculous standards, brokers just sold them (irresponsibly in some cases).  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dwight - In some states, like NC, brokers need to have background checks, credit reports, take a class and exam.  While I feel the requirements could still be higher, bank loan officers (like Wachovia ones) are exempt from even these regulations... they are in no database and the state has 0 knowledge of who they are.  Brokers have far higher standards to enter the industry and remain there.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course there are bad brokers that commit fraud.  There are also lenders that do the same.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Speaking of &quot;sane and honest lending practices&quot; ignores that Wachovia sought out and purchased one of the largest Option ARM lenders there was.  They advertised their happy, dancing people about the &quot;Pick-a-Pay&quot; Option ARM until 2 months ago.... well past when warnings were clear that these programs were sold by their loan officers inappropriately.  Plenty of reports showed how their own loan officers were given incentives to sell this product to anyone that would call.  Now they have to pay the price for that business decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikew-  Not only was their fraud at all levels, but banks are the ones that set the rules by which brokers had to work.  The bank sets the guidelines and hires, trains and supervises the underwriters that approve these loans.  They gave away &#8220;free money&#8221; at ridiculous standards, brokers just sold them (irresponsibly in some cases).  </p>
<p>Dwight &#8211; In some states, like NC, brokers need to have background checks, credit reports, take a class and exam.  While I feel the requirements could still be higher, bank loan officers (like Wachovia ones) are exempt from even these regulations&#8230; they are in no database and the state has 0 knowledge of who they are.  Brokers have far higher standards to enter the industry and remain there.</p>
<p>Of course there are bad brokers that commit fraud.  There are also lenders that do the same.</p>
<p>Speaking of &#8220;sane and honest lending practices&#8221; ignores that Wachovia sought out and purchased one of the largest Option ARM lenders there was.  They advertised their happy, dancing people about the &#8220;Pick-a-Pay&#8221; Option ARM until 2 months ago&#8230;. well past when warnings were clear that these programs were sold by their loan officers inappropriately.  Plenty of reports showed how their own loan officers were given incentives to sell this product to anyone that would call.  Now they have to pay the price for that business decision.</p>
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		<title>By: mikew</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dwight,  Interesting that you think brokers create more fraud than retail reps.   As a broker i can lose everything i own if fraud happens.   I have to pay for multiple insurance policys, have seminars for my employees,  do several hours of continuing ed every year about fraud.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A retail rep --at worse-loses their job and gets another one with another large retail mortgage operation.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I for one am sick of everyone thinking fraud only occurs at the wholesale level.   I have been in the biz for about 20 years and have numerous friends on both sides of the origination.    Believe me when i tell you the retail originators are or were very much willing to do fruad.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wachovia and Wamu are in the mess they are because of they tried to be too big in an industry that was poised to contract.    Both companies we apparently run by idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dwight,  Interesting that you think brokers create more fraud than retail reps.   As a broker i can lose everything i own if fraud happens.   I have to pay for multiple insurance policys, have seminars for my employees,  do several hours of continuing ed every year about fraud.   </p>
<p>A retail rep &#8211;at worse-loses their job and gets another one with another large retail mortgage operation.   </p>
<p>I for one am sick of everyone thinking fraud only occurs at the wholesale level.   I have been in the biz for about 20 years and have numerous friends on both sides of the origination.    Believe me when i tell you the retail originators are or were very much willing to do fruad.   </p>
<p>Wachovia and Wamu are in the mess they are because of they tried to be too big in an industry that was poised to contract.    Both companies we apparently run by idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: dwright540</title>
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		<dc:creator>dwright540</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad Wachovia discontinued portfolio loan products.  Discontinuing the relationship with  brokers was a stroke of genius however since it reduced the risk of fraud.  Now maybe Wachovia will train their loan officers to offer quality products at low cost and build a business based on sane and honest lending practices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad Wachovia discontinued portfolio loan products.  Discontinuing the relationship with  brokers was a stroke of genius however since it reduced the risk of fraud.  Now maybe Wachovia will train their loan officers to offer quality products at low cost and build a business based on sane and honest lending practices.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed.  OOooohh, let&#039;s blame the mortgage brokers for EVERYTHING.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Give.me.a.break.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But it is a said day for all those people getting laid off at Wachovia.  One of my ex-co-workers at Plaza Home Mortgage when to Wachovia and just got laid off.  Morgan, I swear, I just started hearing the words on CNBC again yesterday, &quot;Is the worst over now?&quot;........I feel like reaching into the TV, yanking those people by the throat and saying, &quot;F NO!!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.  OOooohh, let&#39;s blame the mortgage brokers for EVERYTHING.</p>
<p>Give.me.a.break.</p>
<p>But it is a said day for all those people getting laid off at Wachovia.  One of my ex-co-workers at Plaza Home Mortgage when to Wachovia and just got laid off.  Morgan, I swear, I just started hearing the words on CNBC again yesterday, &#8220;Is the worst over now?&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;..I feel like reaching into the TV, yanking those people by the throat and saying, &#8220;F NO!!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WAMU ceased all wholesalm operations last month.</description>
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		<title>By: Coco Lopez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coco Lopez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Genius, really... let&#039;s consolidate credit, remove competition and make banks establish brick and mortar establishments throughout the country.  That can&#039;t be anything but good for the American consumer... right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Genius, really&#8230; let&#39;s consolidate credit, remove competition and make banks establish brick and mortar establishments throughout the country.  That can&#39;t be anything but good for the American consumer&#8230; right?</p>
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		<title>By: Wachovia posts record $8.9 billion quarterly loss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wachovia posts record $8.9 billion quarterly loss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mikew</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wachovia is barely on a life line.  They are DESPARATE to survive as a banking company....as is Wamu.    These are two companies that without a doubt acted like a kid in a candy store during the hype of the mortgage market.   They bought any mortgage  lender they could get their hands on.    It should come as no surprise that their overly agressive management of yesteryears contributed to their very likely demise.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wholesale lending is alive and well.   In fact I think last weeks action by they Federal Reserve to leave YSP alone speaks volumes about the top regulators opinion of the need for mortgage brokers.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wachovia like Wamu&#039;s mortgage failiures create more opportunities for brokers.   Keep in mind that Wachovia (like wamu) stated they intend to keep mortgage originations close to their branches.    Hello thats opportunities for us brokers.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Isnt it amazing that this brilliant company spent 29 billion last year for a company that originated pay option arms?   Remember Wachovia&#039;s is under the management of the former First Union Clan.  Remember they owned perhaps the first well known predatory lender &quot;The Money Store&quot; .   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This in no way leads to demise of the wholesale community to originate just hard money loans.    This is certainly two large orginators scaling way back.   I see opportunities for originators and nothing less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wachovia is barely on a life line.  They are DESPARATE to survive as a banking company&#8230;.as is Wamu.    These are two companies that without a doubt acted like a kid in a candy store during the hype of the mortgage market.   They bought any mortgage  lender they could get their hands on.    It should come as no surprise that their overly agressive management of yesteryears contributed to their very likely demise.   </p>
<p>Wholesale lending is alive and well.   In fact I think last weeks action by they Federal Reserve to leave YSP alone speaks volumes about the top regulators opinion of the need for mortgage brokers.  </p>
<p>Wachovia like Wamu&#39;s mortgage failiures create more opportunities for brokers.   Keep in mind that Wachovia (like wamu) stated they intend to keep mortgage originations close to their branches.    Hello thats opportunities for us brokers.   </p>
<p>Isnt it amazing that this brilliant company spent 29 billion last year for a company that originated pay option arms?   Remember Wachovia&#39;s is under the management of the former First Union Clan.  Remember they owned perhaps the first well known predatory lender &#8220;The Money Store&#8221; .   </p>
<p>This in no way leads to demise of the wholesale community to originate just hard money loans.    This is certainly two large orginators scaling way back.   I see opportunities for originators and nothing less.</p>
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		<title>By: Azran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Azran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard that washington mutual also don&#039;t offer wholesale, is it true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve heard that washington mutual also don&#39;t offer wholesale, is it true?</p>
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		<title>By: yanni raz</title>
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		<dc:creator>yanni raz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s not just wachovia, I&#039;ve heard that most banks don&#039;t want to do wholesale anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#39;s not just wachovia, I&#39;ve heard that most banks don&#39;t want to do wholesale anymore.</p>
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