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Loan Modifications on Your Own

by Morgan on February 4, 2008

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One of the most frequent requests I receive is from people wanting to know how they can modify their mortgage with a loan modification from their current mortgage servicer. These folks are usually in adjustable rate mortgages that have exploded, leading to monsterous mortgage payments that have gone delinquent. The process of loan modification is not easy. It takes gumption, resolve and a bit of salesmanship to get the job done. But if you get your loan mod done you’ll receive a loan at a competitive rate that is fixed and secure for usually 30 years.

Update: I wrote this post more than a year ago, and the changing rules around loan modification have made for new benefits and qualification guidelines that may vary from those listed here. For example, many loan modifications are being offered as 5-year fixed modifications and not for a full 30-year term.

Over the next several days I’m going to walk you through the process of getting a loan modification on your own. Be forewarned it involves a lot of phone calls, a lot of bad hold music and a bunch of number crunching. It can be enough to make your head spin.

A Word of Caution

Be very careful if you choose to use a loan modification company that takes a fee up front to negotiate your loan modification for you. They cannot guarantee a successful modification and can end up costing you another month’s mortgage payment in exchange for false hope. The best of these companies have done the modification countless times and will actually try to help you in earnest without guarantee. The worst are scams that take your money with a cursory attempt to help you (if any).

Do It Yourself Loan Modification – A Guide

Because I am a big fan of DIY I was excited to get a copy of the ebook entitled The Mortgage Relief Formula. This book walks you through how to modify your loan on your own – saving costs and headaches of false promises of loan modification companies. This book is wide ranging and covers everything from loan modifications to dealing with debt collectors to short selling your home in 9 days (no kidding).

I have read the book myself and was highly impressed with some of the thoughts and ideas expressed in it. I will disclose right now that I am an affiliate of the book; and should you purchase it I will receive a commission. However, I am confident that if you are in a situation where you are looking to modify your loan or short sale your home you will be happy you have read this book. I will be doing a more thorough review of the text in coming posts because I believe that the concepts in it could help many people who face the unpleasant reality of a crushing mortgage or a home in which they are upside down.

You can see a sample of the type of loan modification information you’ll learn in the video at the bottom of this post. If you like the video you’ll love the loan modification course and book.

The First Step in the Loan Modification Process

The first step is to contact your mortgage company. It is amazing to me that there are thousands of delinquent borrowers who never have the courage to pick up the phone and talk to their lender before heading in to foreclosure. This is untenable. If you are sinking it is up to you to pick up the phone and call the customer service number. Identify yourself and ask to speak with the loss mitigation department. Do not spend too much time with the customer service representative – they cannot help you – save your breath and ask to be transfered to the loss mitigation department.

Before you are transferred ask for the direct dial number to the department. This will save you a step in your (many) subsequent follow up phone calls.

When you get to the loss mitigation department ask who you are speaking to. Get their full name if possible and position title (don’t be overly-aggressive about it – be friendly but firm – say “I am keeping a record of my conversations and would like to ensure I’ve accurately documented this conversation.”) Explain to the person that you have an adjustable rate mortgage and are unable to make the higher monthly payments. You are (or may become) delinquent on your loan and need to modify it or there is a serious chance that you’ll fall further behind and/or go in to foreclosure.

You don’t want to say for certain you’re headed to foreclosure because lenders don’t like wasting time with lost causes – there are enough people out there that have a slim chance of staving off total loss through a loan modification; but you want to over-communicate to them that the problem is serious and needs immediate attention.

They will ask you some basic questions. You MUST be honest, but you want to be frank in your assessment of your financial situation. If you’re the eternal optimist now is not the time to be upbeat about your financial wherewithal. Within the bounds of honesty you must show that you are in a bad financial place.

If they assess that you’re situation qualifies for a loan modification they will send you an information packet along with a worksheet to calculate your monthly expenses. Think of this process as similar to when you qualified for the loan but in reverse. You must unqualify yourself to prove that you are financially incapable of making the increased mortgage payment. You also must prove that a modification is going to improve your situation to a point where you will be an acceptable risk for them.

If they calculate that even after a loan modification you’re still too deep in the red to be helped they will deny you a chance at modifying your loan.

Documenting Your Loan Modification Efforts is Critical

Next you want to create a spreadsheet that acts as a call log to help track your diligence in completing your loan modification. It will also keep your notes in one place. This is a critical document because you will be talking to many different people in the loss mitigation department. While they have phone notes it’s important that you capture conversations on your own so that if you run in to a roadblock or dead end you can use the information you’ve written down in your log to help you keep pushing forward. You can also reference promises, comments or details that may help you overcome objections as you talk to other people in the department.

On your spreadsheet you’ll want to capture the following: date, time, number called, person spoke to (be sure to get the full name of each person) and detailed notes of the conversation.

Not only does this keep you organized, it helps document your efforts to improve your situation should the lender initiate foreclosure proceedings. You’ll have it available to all parties to show you’ve made a good faith effort to work out an amicable and fair resolution to the problem.

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Next: Get your Loan Modification Approved by Properly Completing the Monthly Expense Worksheet

In the following video we show you what you’ll need to understand about getting your loan modification approved or accepted by a lender by properly documenting the elements that make up your monthly expenses. The lender will calculate your monthly expenses using a similar worksheet to determine if you qualify for a loan modification. You’ll want to do this ahead of time so you understand what counts and what doesn’t count in your loan modification monthly expense calculation.

Loan Modification Tips Video: Secrets Revealed

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Here is the transcription of the video:

Hey it’s Richard Geller, getloanmodificationsecrets.org. I’ve been a tremendous fan of Morgan’s and Blown Mortgage for quite a while. I’ve been reading the blog for about a year and a half, and I’m a huge fan. And what I did was, Morgan got in touch with me and I said I’ll make a video that will help your people with loan modifications.

And what I did was look at what mistake people make who are not getting loan modifications granted, the big mistake. And also, I have people that I teach in my home study course I teach you how to do loan modifications not just for yourself but as a business doing loan modifications for profit. And I find that people make the same mistake if their in the business of doing loan modifications. And so if you’re a mortgage broker, in the mortgage business a Realtor® an investor, or looking for a home-based business, or whatever, this is gonna help you a lot and is really quick and will give you some vital information to get loan modifications approved at a really, really high rate.

And what I’m talking about here is the ratio that lenders look at, the major ratio, the debt to income ratio, DTIR if you’re in the loan business, debt to income ratio, what you do is, I’m going to show you how to calculate it in this and we’re going to go to a screen shot of my computer and I’ll show you how to calculate it correctly and what not to do and there are a few little tips in here that if you pay really close attention there are a couple of tips in there worth their weight in gold beyond debt to income ratio if you already know what I’m talking about.

So, pay attention to this, I think you’ll get a lot out of it and what I’m going to do at the end is hyperlink to more information about my Loan Mod Magic course and you can try it out if you’re interested and if you’re not interested that’s fine too. I think you’ll get a lot out of it. Great! Thanks so much and here’s the screen capture video.

This is Richard Geller, and this is the key to getting your loan mod proposal accepted by a lender. And if you miss this stuff you’re just going to be lost because the lenders are going to be applying this criteria and you’re not going to understand what they’re doing. If you get this you have a good chance of getting your lender to accept your loan mod proposal or your client’s loan mod proposal.

Want to caution you here you want to stick to honesty here. What we’re talking about here are facts and packaging facts in the best way possible. But what we’re not talking about here is lying or misrepresenting information. We never want to encourage you to do that. You want to be very honest with the lenders.

What we’re going to do is look at monthly payments that count. Now, credit card minimum payments absolutely count. That is an area where if the debt to income ratio doesn’t work you might be able to get your client to contact their credit card companies and lower their minimums. Also, some lenders don’t look at all credit cards. Many of them just look at what’s on the credit report. So, although you really want to be complete and honest the lenders may only look at what’s on the credit report. And so some credit cards, like business cards don’t show up on personal credit reports necessarily.

Car payments, definitely count as long as it is used for personal use. If it’s a company car or used for business it doesn’t count. You want to count your hoped for mortgage payment. Whatever the mortgage payment you’re hoping to get. They also count property tax and property insurance. As long as those are expressed as a monthly amount those count. So those are examples of monthly payments that do count. Very easy to understand so let’s go to the next section which would be expenses that don’t count. Even though these are real expenses the lender doesn’t count them.

First of all, food. You need to live, but the lender doesn’t care about that as it pertains to debt to income ratio. Your cable bill, your daycare, how much you spend on a car or truck that’s used for business is not going to go in to your debt to income ratio. Tuition expenses. Let’s say that you borrowed money from mom and you have to pay her back. I’m sorry mom, it’s not on your credit report you don’t have to pay it back, it doesn’t count in your debt to income ratio. None of this counts. So let’s look at a typical scenario to see how it might work for you or your client.

So I’ve got a sample financial dealio here. Let’s look at that. SO first of all we’re talking about two credit cards here. We’re talking about $12,000 all together and minimum payments of $120 and $280. So as far as the lender is concerned these minimum payments…

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  • I must agree. Even though I am with a loan modification company. We do offer a Money Back Guarantee if we are unable to get a loan modified successfully. None the less, you can DIY a loan mod without a doubt. However, would you go to court without an attorney? Of course not! Counselors like myself have been doing loan mods way before it became an unfortunate "trend". Our service offers, expertise, knowledge and quite frankly the peace of mind of not having to go through the sometimes 90 day process of a loan mod. Most of our clients have gone the route of DIY and have failed because they do not understand the importance of the information that is submitted to the lender to actually qualify. Yes, you must qualify for help. simply filling out paperwork and sending it to your lender will not get you a loan modification or out of foreclosure. We list our customer testimonies and the successful modifications we get on our website. This way clients know what we can do for them. tharrison@defaultmortgage.org
  • Arthur
    Don't email this person. My friend went through this company and they lost their home. Their fees are high and they accept money if you are in default which is illegal.
  • Teri
    Arthur, an attorney based loan modification company can collect fees even when the borrower has received notice of default.. sorry for your friend tho'
  • foreclosureprevention
    I agree also with DIY loan modification, but its my belief that a loan modification is not always the best route to take the reason being, a loan modification will not help if you owe more than your property is worth. There are programs that actually do help if you owe more than your property is worth such as a "Short Refinance" and you do not have to pay anything upfront it is all written into the new loan. This program is regulated by the DRE so there will not be any outside companies involved who are not within the real estate industry. The amount charged is regulated also, so the risk factor is not as great as taking a chance with an outside loan mod company who can take an upfont fee and not accomplish a thing for you!
    How it works:
    If you owe more than your property is worth then the new loan will be at the current appraised value of your home with a 30 year fixed mortgage at a low interest rate (4.5-5.9).
    Just like a loan modification you have to have a hardship of some sort that has effected you financially, but show that you can afford the new loan.
    For more information email me at amiller@firststatelendinginc.com
  • shortrefi
    SHORT REFINANCE
    A short refinance is where your existing lender agrees to a short payoff, by reducing your principal balance to market value PLUS enough to cover the new lender's equity requirements AND refinance closing costs. In many ways, this is exactly what the Hope for Homeowners Program offers. However, the key difference here is that successful short refinances now happen in cases where the borrower is NOT late - the reason being, you will not qualify for a traditional FHA refinance if you have been late on your mortgage within the past 12 months. *The exception is FHASecure, where the program grants exceptions to those borrowers who have gone late as a result of an interest rate increase only. If you are successful with a short refinance, you will not have to share your equity with the government. In fact, all of the loss mitigation alternatives mentioned here will not require that. Why an FHA refinance and not a conventional or jumbo? FHA guaranteed loans are the only ones that will refinance up to 95% of a home's market value. Otherwise, your existing lender would have to write down enough to give you 10% equity to qualify for a conventional loan PLUS more to cover closing costs- and that's simply not going to happen.
  • shortrefi
    • The new mortgage, if approved, will replace all of the current mortgages on your home. You will not owe any payments, fees or debts on mortgages you now hold.

    • You must agree to share both the equity created at the beginning of this new mortgage and a portion of any future appreciation in the value of your home. (link to equity and appreciation sharing examples for website).

    • In addition to an upfront mortgage insurance payment of 3%, you will pay a 1.5% annual mortgage insurance premium on your outstanding mortgage balance. This premium will be included in your monthly payments.

    • You will need to pay closing costs on the loan. You will receive a Good Faith Estimate of these costs.
  • Ozzie
    I have been making my payments on time for the last 24 months and my house felt in value significantly.
    Owe 290k and is worth 225k
    According to X company, the new value of the house will be 200k
    I would like to know how in the world 290k is set down to 200k, what is it that 90k are wipe out of the face of the earth.
    Do I have to pay back later during the life of the loan, or will I be set to pay a house for 60 years?
  • There are a few, and I mean like 2 lender service companies, that we are aware of that are reducing the principle balance on loans. However, that decision to do so is coming from the investor of the loan, not the service company. Even if you have a loan being serviced by one of these companies, this doesn't mean your investor is the same. It is a very rare occurrence to see a principle balance reduction. None the less, companies use it as a marketing\sales tactic to get you to sign up for service to find out later a conventional modification is what you end up with anyways.
  • Arthur
    You guys don't have a money back guarantee
  • I agree with "Tharrison"'s comment. Yes, you can do your own loan modification; but it's a real minefield and will typically take you HOURS on the phone, and you really need to know how to present your circumstances to the lender: esp. evidence of hardship, and your financial situation, esp. how to balance INCOME & EXPENSES. Your being severely 'upside down' will not necessarily push your lender into modifying your loan, through threatening them with what they may lose in a forced sale. Who really owns your loan? Will they care? Maybe they will happily take a loss on the sale of your home, if it creates at least some liquid cash flow for them ...
    A reputable loan modification company CAN be a great help, if it honestly assesses your situation and identifies a realistic chance of getting you a good mod. Even then, be suspicious if you are asked for a large up front fee, e.g. in excess of $2,000. The company I work for charges (after a detailed and careful free assessment process) a TOTAL of $2,600, with no more than half that charged at outset, and the balance is payable when a satisfactory modification is attained. Even the initial payment is refundable, if the lender unexpectedly issues a flat denial.
    You need to approach the idea of a modification carefully, with eyes wide open. REMEMBER, If you have significant negative equity, whatever your payment is, or type of loan, you are doing no more than paying rent to your lender - you will not, in this housing market, regain that equity and sell with a surplus, for MANY YEARS. I have clients who have made the arguably sensible decision of 'walking away', and renting the IDENTICAL MODEL of their home up the street, with a monthly payment of aroung HALF their previous mortgage payment. Hey, they can even put their furniture EXACTLy where it was in their 'owned' property!
    I'm not RECOMMENDING that: it's your life, & your decision. But you should NEVER let your home kill you financially, OR emotionally. Please feel free to contact me if you wish to share your circumstances. As a Realtor® I will honestly give you the best advice I can.

    BTW this 'Blownmortgage' web site seems to me to be an EXCELLENT one of its kind, offering sensible, impartial advice. There are too many rip-off loan mod. companies/individuals around trying to screw the vulnerable. SHAME ON THEM.

    Phil. 916 715 4986. philryder@camoves.com
  • Veronica
    Hi Phil, I've tried to send you an e-mail, but I keep geting that the e-mail address is incorect or can't be found.
    Thank you
  • Arthur
    Never use a loan modification company. They do something you can do yourself veronica which is send information to the bank, cross their fingers and hope for the best. Don't give Phil your information.
  • doc
    you r wrong, someones house deserves professional attention (provided its legit) if you go in armed with only a limited knowledge of the process you wont recieve the biggest reduction and best outcome. i can tell you what the lender will reduce your payments to because of the previous experience, knowing lender oblogations, laws, etc. lenders are hoping homeowners don't use professionals. dah
  • Loan_Modification
    Indeed a valuable information on the subject but can you think of someone handling all legal aspects of the loan modification process ?
  • Bond
    As a former Mortgage Brokerage Owner, I decided to work for a Law Firm that is reputable and has been doing Loan Mods long before it became popular.
    Fact: The Loss Mit Dept inside Lenders & Servicers say that if a H/O chooses to "Do it themselves" they will get a 100 - 200 dollar break, if they go through an attorney the H/O has more leverage and usually gets what they need, so there you have it right out of the horses mouth. Having the right legal representation so that a H/O can maximize their chances of correcting their current scenario and send them off on a more stable path is our goal and we are accomplishing that 1000's of times over at this firm. I know that there are a large number of scammers out there but a H/O dealing with their own Mortgage Company is like sending a lamb to slaughter..........Bond
  • Greg
    my loan co. offered a loan mod of 6.5 fixed for 30yrs. but will not reduce princ. to current value..underwater 50,000 ..deal or no deal? will it ever come back you think? 50,000..thanks ...also a balloon payment is in there that can't be modified..maybe I should walk away?
  • Brian
    You will have to be the one who makes the decision to walk away, and that is an option worth considering. Depending on what state you live in and the local economy, the housing values could take YEARS to rebound and return back to a level where you are no longer underwater.

    I would be considering these factors:
    -your new monthly payment vs. cost of renting
    -how long is the foreclosure process in your state (in Michigan there is a 6 month redemption period, so the entire process can take almost a year to get you out of the house if you stop making payments) This allows you to save money while living in the home making no payments
    -how long will it take you to rebuild your credit
    -the bank may still come after you for the deficiency, because you signed a note when you bought the house which does not go away unless you declare bankruptcy (many times banks will not bother chasing you down for the deficiency because they know you can declare bankruptcy)
    -it might be worth it writing them a letter stating that you are not interested in the loan mod unless the balance is reduced to market level (and you would not want to be making payments to them during this time, as they won't take you seriously if the money is still coming in)

    Good luck....
  • Avramski
    I would add that if the bank does not come after you for the deficiency, it may send you IRS form 1099 for the amount. This means that the IRS will treat the forgiven deficiency as self employed income to you and you will have to pay taxes on it.
  • I think "may" is the operative word here. Many banks are not filing these
    1099s. I would also anticipate that there will be some tax law changes with
    any mortgage bailout that would relieve this burden. Not that you should
    do anything based on what may happen but it is a consideration. Also, you
    should always consult a tax professional (lawyer, accountant, etc.) for any
    implications on your taxes.
  • KurtEse
    This was the case in the past. Now, since the Mortgage Debt Relief Act of 2007 was this is not the case. More can be read at http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=17...
  • KurtEse
    That was the case in the past, since the Mortgage Debt Relief Act went into effect in 2007, lenders are NOT issuing 1099s for forgiven debt. More can be read at http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=17...
  • The idea of a DIY loan modification sounds good in theory, but the reality is most borrowers simply are not able to make the time commitment to the process to get the best result. A loan modification requires a substantial time commitment to be able to wait on hold for hours at a time, and be available to take a lenders call anytime during the day. A borrower should also try and understand the whole process before they start including lender guidelines, programs their particular lender has available, and documents required by the lender. It's not that a borrower can't do it themselves, it just takes an enormous time and resource commitment to do it right.
    As far as loan modification companies that offer a "guarantee," the problem with that is they just won't be around when it's time to give the money back...a guarantee is only as good as the company that issued it. Most of these outfits don't last long. In the spirit of full disclosure, I am a real estate attorney and manage www.mcfarlinlaw.com.
  • Carelia castro
    I would love to do my loan modification on my own, but banks are not interested in helping individuals. I tried getting help from my previous bank and after many phone calls and a lot of paper work, I got no results. I ended up refinancing with another bank just to cash out in order to pay the mortgage and get a fix interest rate. Now we are struggling to make the new payment and our savings are gone. I have good credit, have always paid on time and still I can't seem to get help. I called my new mortgage company for help and their advice was to keep the little money I had left in the bank and not pay the mortgage payment. And that someone would call me within 30 days. Can someone give me some advice.
  • Hi Carelia,

    You might want to fill out the form at the bottom of this post (above the comments) and someone from the Mortgage Modification Legal Network will contact you directly about your options. There's no obligation and they'll tell you whether they can help you or not on the first call. (Disclosure: If you work with them I will make a commission as I'm an affiliate.)

    Good luck!
  • Bobby
    Okay so you explain how to do a modification by yourself. Then you tell everyone to contact a modification company? Don't you think this is a little contradictory?
  • I didn't recommend that you contact a loan modification company. I
    recommended that you get the info you need to do it yourself. I think that
    the company recommended has good information. That's all.
  • Gilbert
    We should also ask if the company works with the Hope Now Government programs. Those should be the first option for everybody. The program are very generous and are the only way that many people have to save their homes. The hope for homeowners gives a new loan based on the "current" value of the house... In HopeNowMortgages.com said that the government expect to help 400,000 homeowners and they are just starting...
  • Some good information here. DIY Loan Mods are pretty risky if you don't know what you are doing as sometimes approaching the lender can lead the consumer to be immediately pushed into foreclosure because the lender of the mortgage servicer gets worried about being paid.

    A great service that shows homeowners whether or not they are likely to qualify for Loan Modification is called Loan Amnesty
  • Notice to all commenters: if you're commenting and pimping the loan modification company you work for or your own personal services your link will be removed as spam. if you feel your comment was removed in error please email me and i'll reconsider.
  • mybizna
    There are really some good Loan Modification companies out there who will do all of this work for you. I mean cmon, the average homeowner like me in dire straits is not thinking about doing all of these things nor do they have the time to sit down and tackle this only to make the mistakes and fail;but would rather someone who is an expert take care of it. Let's be honest, it's in no way an easy process for me and I consider myself to be pretty intelligent. The company I'm working with charges a fee($2095 or $1795 if just behind but not in foreclosure) with a 100% guarantee in writing covering 47 states and they're getting me caught up(5 months behind and in foreclosure), stopping the threat of foreclosure, reducing my rate by 4.75%, saving over $400 each month, and reducing my loan balance. This is a no brainer and I was also referred to them by my neighbor who already went thru the process successfully saving her home and over $7000 per year on her home loan...I was referred to and currently working with a real nice intelligent guy @ a mortgage company...John Williams, 1-866-846-3355ext.109...see what he can do for you I am telling you he is 1 of the guys who is making the difference for us homeowners right now.
  • cliffcapdevielle
    I am an attorney in California helping consumers with Bankruptcy and Loan Modification issues. I want to get the word out about some problems I am seeing with the loan modification applications.

    Contrary to the recent news, banks are offering loan modifications. However many of the applications are not accepted for these reasons:
    1. The application is incomplete. In contrast to the past, banks require perfect documentation. For example, if a person is self employed they will be required to provide a current year to date P&L. Bank statements and Payroll records must be current(past 60 days). Oftentimes the banks won’t review a file without current information even though they are only reviewing the file 90 days after it is submitted. Customers should continue to submit bank and payroll records to the bank until the application process is complete. The banks will not remind clients or call them to let them know their applications are incomplete or their information is outdated.
    2. Parts of the file is lost by the bank or servicer. Banks and servicers are receiving thousands of applications per day(most by fax). When submitting an application to the bank, homeowners should write the loan number on each and every documents, so that the banks can put the documents in the correct file. Servicers have available to attorneys methods of submitting applications through web portals. These are not currently available to homeowners.
    3. Homeowners are not using the banks forms. Most banks now have websites with preprinted forms to use for the application. If homeowners use other forms for hardship letters or financial statements, the reviewer may not recognize it as such, and deny the application without review.
    4. Homeowners are trying to make themselves look as impoverished as possible to qualify. The goal of a homeowner should be to explain to the bank why they can not make the current payment. If the homeowner exaggerates expenses or underreports income, he or she may make themselves ineligible for a modification, when they might otherwise be eligible.
    5. Homeowners are giving up. The banks are expanding their programs weekly. Even if a home owner was denied an application last year or even last month, they may be eligible for a program now. It doesn’t hurt to resubmit an application with updated information.
    Please call or email me with any questions.
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