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		<title>By: Lehman loses $3 billion for the quarter - will raise capital</title>
		<link>http://blownmortgage.com/2008/01/17/aurora-loan-services-closing/comment-page-1/#comment-11110</link>
		<dc:creator>Lehman loses $3 billion for the quarter - will raise capital</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lehman bet heavily on the mortgage business with purchases of both subprime lender BNC Mortgage and alt-a lender Aurora (both of which they closed update, thanks Candy: Aurora Loan Services is still operating a Retail [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fielding Mellish</title>
		<link>http://blownmortgage.com/2008/01/17/aurora-loan-services-closing/comment-page-1/#comment-9102</link>
		<dc:creator>Fielding Mellish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 06:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mortgage business is picking up a little, due to refi&#039;s, but buyers of properties in CA who think they&#039;re at the bottom may get a rude awakening in another year or two.  There are still a ton of SISA Option ARM borrowers who are upside down, for whom even add&#039;l massive Fed rates cuts can&#039;t make their re-cast fully-amortized payments manageable.  They have not even started to go into foreclosure yet.

Then there are the newbie &quot;investors&quot; who want to buy foreclosed single family homes, give them a &quot;shave and a haircut&quot; and re-sell for a profit.  They vastly underestimate the holding time to renovate, their carrying costs during that time, the costs of renovation and the selling costs.  And they are overestimating the likely eventual sale price.  Most of these guys are not buying at deep enough discounts to even break even.  A year from now, I expect it to be the new &quot;common knowledge&quot; that buying foreclosed homes is a great way to lose money.  That &quot;common knowledge&quot; will serve to dissuade other would-be speculators for another year or three.

I&#039;m telling you, this is a &quot;Fool&#039;s Rally&quot; in real estate prices.  Speculating by buying at a 15% discount from the peak is for suckers.  If you want to buy real estate to make money, wait until prices are low enough where it would cash flow well if rented out.  In most areas, that means significant additional price declines.  I&#039;m guessing my 14 year old kid will still be able to get some good deals on fourplexes when he&#039;s out of college.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mortgage business is picking up a little, due to refi&#8217;s, but buyers of properties in CA who think they&#8217;re at the bottom may get a rude awakening in another year or two.  There are still a ton of SISA Option ARM borrowers who are upside down, for whom even add&#8217;l massive Fed rates cuts can&#8217;t make their re-cast fully-amortized payments manageable.  They have not even started to go into foreclosure yet.</p>
<p>Then there are the newbie &#8220;investors&#8221; who want to buy foreclosed single family homes, give them a &#8220;shave and a haircut&#8221; and re-sell for a profit.  They vastly underestimate the holding time to renovate, their carrying costs during that time, the costs of renovation and the selling costs.  And they are overestimating the likely eventual sale price.  Most of these guys are not buying at deep enough discounts to even break even.  A year from now, I expect it to be the new &#8220;common knowledge&#8221; that buying foreclosed homes is a great way to lose money.  That &#8220;common knowledge&#8221; will serve to dissuade other would-be speculators for another year or three.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m telling you, this is a &#8220;Fool&#8217;s Rally&#8221; in real estate prices.  Speculating by buying at a 15% discount from the peak is for suckers.  If you want to buy real estate to make money, wait until prices are low enough where it would cash flow well if rented out.  In most areas, that means significant additional price declines.  I&#8217;m guessing my 14 year old kid will still be able to get some good deals on fourplexes when he&#8217;s out of college.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://blownmortgage.com/2008/01/17/aurora-loan-services-closing/comment-page-1/#comment-9097</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 04:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, I&#039;m prospecting a construction loan for a small apt. building.  I was trying to work a VA loan that would have been easy to do, but the borrower put it on hold because of family drama.

Regarding a bottom, it was reported on CNBC today that Merrill had the biggest loss in it&#039;s history last quarter, but it wanted to get all the information out in the open so the market knows exactly what&#039;s going on.  Apparently, more brokerage houses are going to do the same.  This should begin to calm things down if they really do it.  We maybe seeing the very beginning of the end of the dark days, but I want to get past the summer when most of the resets happen before I start taking the Deep Sigh of Relief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, I&#8217;m prospecting a construction loan for a small apt. building.  I was trying to work a VA loan that would have been easy to do, but the borrower put it on hold because of family drama.</p>
<p>Regarding a bottom, it was reported on CNBC today that Merrill had the biggest loss in it&#8217;s history last quarter, but it wanted to get all the information out in the open so the market knows exactly what&#8217;s going on.  Apparently, more brokerage houses are going to do the same.  This should begin to calm things down if they really do it.  We maybe seeing the very beginning of the end of the dark days, but I want to get past the summer when most of the resets happen before I start taking the Deep Sigh of Relief.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 04:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that I&#039;m having a great month, but it&#039;s predominantly two things:
Streamline refis with no appraisal needed
Very high end custom construction jobs (very high end around here would be defined as 7 figures to the left of the decimal point).

Though I am sitting here working yet with 4 preapprovals sitting on my desk.

Do I think we&#039;ve seen the bottom yet, based on all of the bad news that&#039;s been reported, no I don&#039;t.  But for well positioned, well connected professionals with their customers best interest in mind, it&#039;s going to be a good year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that I&#8217;m having a great month, but it&#8217;s predominantly two things:<br />
Streamline refis with no appraisal needed<br />
Very high end custom construction jobs (very high end around here would be defined as 7 figures to the left of the decimal point).</p>
<p>Though I am sitting here working yet with 4 preapprovals sitting on my desk.</p>
<p>Do I think we&#8217;ve seen the bottom yet, based on all of the bad news that&#8217;s been reported, no I don&#8217;t.  But for well positioned, well connected professionals with their customers best interest in mind, it&#8217;s going to be a good year.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 03:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, this kind of back up about business picking up:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7148582/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, this kind of back up about business picking up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7148582/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7148582/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 03:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikew, Morgan, et al, regarding business picking up, this is what I heard, one lender I worked for funded $75 million in December, one that I just was laid off from in June locked $90 million in December.  Not bad.  Also, my last lender just brought back two people they laid off last summer.

Also, I have a neighbor down the street, and she has her license with a good broker in La Jolla.  Her processor said to get ready, rates are good and refis are picking up.

Take that for what it&#039;s worth.  Also, I talked to one La Jolla RE agent that works the coast and he said he had a busy December working with prospects (buyers) who are getting ready to jump back in.  I registered with as an agent at the sales office of a new condo complex in downtown San Diego yesterday, and the sales gal said the same thing, they&#039;ve been busy with prospects and she said buyers are also getting ready to come back as properties become more affordable.

I&#039;m not saying the dark days are completely over, but we may see a bit of sunshine coming through.

Anyone else heard anything???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikew, Morgan, et al, regarding business picking up, this is what I heard, one lender I worked for funded $75 million in December, one that I just was laid off from in June locked $90 million in December.  Not bad.  Also, my last lender just brought back two people they laid off last summer.</p>
<p>Also, I have a neighbor down the street, and she has her license with a good broker in La Jolla.  Her processor said to get ready, rates are good and refis are picking up.</p>
<p>Take that for what it&#8217;s worth.  Also, I talked to one La Jolla RE agent that works the coast and he said he had a busy December working with prospects (buyers) who are getting ready to jump back in.  I registered with as an agent at the sales office of a new condo complex in downtown San Diego yesterday, and the sales gal said the same thing, they&#8217;ve been busy with prospects and she said buyers are also getting ready to come back as properties become more affordable.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying the dark days are completely over, but we may see a bit of sunshine coming through.</p>
<p>Anyone else heard anything???</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 00:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to a memo sent out to Flagstar Bank wholesale lending customers, effective tomorrow, the mortgage lender will be temporarily suspending its ?Jumbo Fixed and ARM Program?.

Another one....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to a memo sent out to Flagstar Bank wholesale lending customers, effective tomorrow, the mortgage lender will be temporarily suspending its ?Jumbo Fixed and ARM Program?.</p>
<p>Another one&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikew</title>
		<link>http://blownmortgage.com/2008/01/17/aurora-loan-services-closing/comment-page-1/#comment-9090</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They were a Alt A/Jumbo lender and these markets just doesn&#039;t exist at the moment.   This closure should not be a surprise to anyone.   I give them credit for making it this long. 

We were set up with them but never used them.   

Its a conventional market.   Fortuanately I still have 20 conventional lenders to compete with.  Most of them have Alt A and jumbo paper thats better priced than Aurora could ever offer.

Regarding your tip Toby,  I have also heard many executives from fallen lenders are working on setting up new shops.

Let me ask...is it just me or is business starting to pick up everywhere?   I think the fed easing is finally starting to work.  My companies pipeline tripled in a week.  Business also picked up a week or two earlier in January than it normally does.   

I think with the agressive rate cutting that will soon come our business will pick up more than some people suspect.   I think things are actually getting better now which would mean that we have seen the bottom of this madness.    

It would be nice because my shop has never been better organized, staffed with as such quality people and been more cost efficient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They were a Alt A/Jumbo lender and these markets just doesn&#8217;t exist at the moment.   This closure should not be a surprise to anyone.   I give them credit for making it this long. </p>
<p>We were set up with them but never used them.   </p>
<p>Its a conventional market.   Fortuanately I still have 20 conventional lenders to compete with.  Most of them have Alt A and jumbo paper thats better priced than Aurora could ever offer.</p>
<p>Regarding your tip Toby,  I have also heard many executives from fallen lenders are working on setting up new shops.</p>
<p>Let me ask&#8230;is it just me or is business starting to pick up everywhere?   I think the fed easing is finally starting to work.  My companies pipeline tripled in a week.  Business also picked up a week or two earlier in January than it normally does.   </p>
<p>I think with the agressive rate cutting that will soon come our business will pick up more than some people suspect.   I think things are actually getting better now which would mean that we have seen the bottom of this madness.    </p>
<p>It would be nice because my shop has never been better organized, staffed with as such quality people and been more cost efficient.</p>
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		<title>By: Toby</title>
		<link>http://blownmortgage.com/2008/01/17/aurora-loan-services-closing/comment-page-1/#comment-9087</link>
		<dc:creator>Toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ALS has gotten a bad rep in the last year from their constantly morphing programs and underwriting.  At one time they did indeed have good, responsible Alt-A and jumbo loan products.  Moving to conforming to keep their head above water was the last straw.  Its like asking a carpenter to build a concrete wall.

Tip:  Expect a new company, Lehman Capital Mortgage, to rise from the ashes in four to six months with only the very talented being carried over from ALS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ALS has gotten a bad rep in the last year from their constantly morphing programs and underwriting.  At one time they did indeed have good, responsible Alt-A and jumbo loan products.  Moving to conforming to keep their head above water was the last straw.  Its like asking a carpenter to build a concrete wall.</p>
<p>Tip:  Expect a new company, Lehman Capital Mortgage, to rise from the ashes in four to six months with only the very talented being carried over from ALS.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee..moving to retail only..no wholesale or correspondent..wow how original!

Wait for the trickle down effect of this one within the week....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee..moving to retail only..no wholesale or correspondent..wow how original!</p>
<p>Wait for the trickle down effect of this one within the week&#8230;.</p>
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