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	<title>Comments on: Struggling in Quicksand &#8211; Why the Government Continues to Exacerbate the Problem</title>
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		<title>By: Foreseer of unintended consequences</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foreseer of unintended consequences</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you can&#039;t afford your subprime loan payments:

1. Bank seizes collateral property
2. Bank sells property at auction
3. Bank applies sale value to total debtor owes
4. Debtor now has remainder of loan period to pay back remaining amount that was borrowed, but not recovered by auction

If debtor was able to qualify for original loan surely they would have no problem paying the reduced amount.  Just the fact that the payments wouldn&#039;t include fire insurance nor property tax might be enough to help them meet their contractual obligation.

The bank depositors get all their money back.  The failed house flippers get to keep their credit ratings.  The housing market is free to set price based upon supply and demand.

Unfortunately the Bushtard has signed legislation removing taxation on the canceled debts.  This was exactly opposite of what should have happened.  Joe Blow now has every incentive to walk away from his $400k loan on his $200k house, then purchase the nicer $205k house across the street using his spouse?s, uncles, mother?s, sister?s clean credit.

Congress and the Bushtard should have placed a 105% tax on canceled debt, with the proceeds from the tax going to pay FDIC insurance claims of failed banks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you can&#8217;t afford your subprime loan payments:</p>
<p>1. Bank seizes collateral property<br />
2. Bank sells property at auction<br />
3. Bank applies sale value to total debtor owes<br />
4. Debtor now has remainder of loan period to pay back remaining amount that was borrowed, but not recovered by auction</p>
<p>If debtor was able to qualify for original loan surely they would have no problem paying the reduced amount.  Just the fact that the payments wouldn&#8217;t include fire insurance nor property tax might be enough to help them meet their contractual obligation.</p>
<p>The bank depositors get all their money back.  The failed house flippers get to keep their credit ratings.  The housing market is free to set price based upon supply and demand.</p>
<p>Unfortunately the Bushtard has signed legislation removing taxation on the canceled debts.  This was exactly opposite of what should have happened.  Joe Blow now has every incentive to walk away from his $400k loan on his $200k house, then purchase the nicer $205k house across the street using his spouse?s, uncles, mother?s, sister?s clean credit.</p>
<p>Congress and the Bushtard should have placed a 105% tax on canceled debt, with the proceeds from the tax going to pay FDIC insurance claims of failed banks.</p>
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		<title>By: Kudos to our own Morgan Brown - winner of the Odysseus Medal!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kudos to our own Morgan Brown - winner of the Odysseus Medal!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 03:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] government is struggling in quicksand.    Congrats to Morgan!   If you haven&#8217;t read what he wrote, you [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] government is struggling in quicksand.    Congrats to Morgan!   If you haven&#8217;t read what he wrote, you [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Odysseus Medal: &#8220;Until we start fixing what is really wrong we&#8217;ll continue to struggle in quicksand&#8221; &#124; BloodhoundBlog: Real estate marketing and technology blog &#124; Realtors and real estate, mortgages, lending, investments</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Odysseus Medal: &#8220;Until we start fixing what is really wrong we&#8217;ll continue to struggle in quicksand&#8221; &#124; BloodhoundBlog: Real estate marketing and technology blog &#124; Realtors and real estate, mortgages, lending, investments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] so it&#8217;s no accident that this week&#8217;s Odysseus Medal should go to Morgan Brown for Struggling in Quicksand - Why the Government Continues to Exacerbate the Problem: So here&#8217;s the rub - all of these &#8220;do gooders&#8221; are making the situation [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] so it&#8217;s no accident that this week&#8217;s Odysseus Medal should go to Morgan Brown for Struggling in Quicksand &#8211; Why the Government Continues to Exacerbate the Problem: So here&#8217;s the rub &#8211; all of these &#8220;do gooders&#8221; are making the situation [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 06:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent, Morgan.  Really really excellent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent, Morgan.  Really really excellent.</p>
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		<title>By: The Odysseus Medal competition &#8212; Voting for the People&#8217;s Choice Award is open &#124; BloodhoundBlog: Real estate marketing and technology blog &#124; Realtors and real estate, mortgages, lending, investments</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Odysseus Medal competition &#8212; Voting for the People&#8217;s Choice Award is open &#124; BloodhoundBlog: Real estate marketing and technology blog &#124; Realtors and real estate, mortgages, lending, investments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 02:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sell a vacant home this winter: Make like a Boy ScoutMorgan Brown &#8212; Struggling in quicksand, Struggling in Quicksand - Why the Government Continues to Exacerbate the ProblemJeff Kempe &#8212; Excellence, Excellence UnchainedGeno Petro &#8212; Bumper stickers, How do I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sell a vacant home this winter: Make like a Boy ScoutMorgan Brown &#8212; Struggling in quicksand, Struggling in Quicksand &#8211; Why the Government Continues to Exacerbate the ProblemJeff Kempe &#8212; Excellence, Excellence UnchainedGeno Petro &#8212; Bumper stickers, How do I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Agerter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Agerter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve almost got myself convinced that this is the irritating band-aid.  It seems like it would be much better to rip it off and get it over with, deal with the pain and then pick up the pieces.  These rate cuts and misguided FHA programs are the slow and excruciating way of pulling back that bandage.  I think it&#039;d be better just to let the &#039;stuff&#039; hit the fan and then go from there.  We&#039;d have a good idea of what was in default, what was a good loan, and where investors can go with their money.  These difference instances of government intervention and ambiguous bank write-downs to me just seem like smokescreens that are going to constantly cloud the picture.  As painful as it may be for some people to go into foreclosure and to face the uphill battle to repair their credit from that point, renting for a few years is not a bad thing (especially in some areas of the current market ha) and hopefully these people would be able to learn a valuable lesson about taking the newest and sexiest loan programs and not taking a second to think about whether or not I should actually be able to qualify for a loan in this amount, etc.  I don&#039;t know, maybe I&#039;m being a tad insensitive, but I&#039;ve encountered so many people who barely grasp what a mortgage is that I&#039;ve begun to believe that the general populus could use a cold, hard slap-in-the-face type wake up call.

By the way, great article Morgan and I agree with about every word.  This is a fantastic overview of the different things that have factored in to clouding the current picture of the economy and I greatly appreciate the insight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve almost got myself convinced that this is the irritating band-aid.  It seems like it would be much better to rip it off and get it over with, deal with the pain and then pick up the pieces.  These rate cuts and misguided FHA programs are the slow and excruciating way of pulling back that bandage.  I think it&#8217;d be better just to let the &#8217;stuff&#8217; hit the fan and then go from there.  We&#8217;d have a good idea of what was in default, what was a good loan, and where investors can go with their money.  These difference instances of government intervention and ambiguous bank write-downs to me just seem like smokescreens that are going to constantly cloud the picture.  As painful as it may be for some people to go into foreclosure and to face the uphill battle to repair their credit from that point, renting for a few years is not a bad thing (especially in some areas of the current market ha) and hopefully these people would be able to learn a valuable lesson about taking the newest and sexiest loan programs and not taking a second to think about whether or not I should actually be able to qualify for a loan in this amount, etc.  I don&#8217;t know, maybe I&#8217;m being a tad insensitive, but I&#8217;ve encountered so many people who barely grasp what a mortgage is that I&#8217;ve begun to believe that the general populus could use a cold, hard slap-in-the-face type wake up call.</p>
<p>By the way, great article Morgan and I agree with about every word.  This is a fantastic overview of the different things that have factored in to clouding the current picture of the economy and I greatly appreciate the insight.</p>
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		<title>By: Your Jewish Master</title>
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		<dc:creator>Your Jewish Master</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this great post.

The idea that the government, who contributed to this mess, is the answer in any way is laughable.  That being said, perhaps the more apinful the landing, the better off everyone will be.  At least until memories fade, and a participants are dead, and a new cycle begins.

But is getting the credit game back on track really what we need?  Has easy credit been good for the populace as a whole?  As people spend every dime they have servicing debt for things they couldn&#039;t afford with cash, no one is actually putting money into good old-fashioned bank accounts.  At least mortgage lending standards have tightened up, but I&#039;m really not a fan of easy credit (credit cards, same as cash, etc).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this great post.</p>
<p>The idea that the government, who contributed to this mess, is the answer in any way is laughable.  That being said, perhaps the more apinful the landing, the better off everyone will be.  At least until memories fade, and a participants are dead, and a new cycle begins.</p>
<p>But is getting the credit game back on track really what we need?  Has easy credit been good for the populace as a whole?  As people spend every dime they have servicing debt for things they couldn&#8217;t afford with cash, no one is actually putting money into good old-fashioned bank accounts.  At least mortgage lending standards have tightened up, but I&#8217;m really not a fan of easy credit (credit cards, same as cash, etc).</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that makes me feel good!   I must tell you, I have tried to learn about the nut and bolts of housing economy and the ancillaries that effect it, but after the past 18 months of these ups and downs and new hurdles that we have never seen, I give up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that makes me feel good!   I must tell you, I have tried to learn about the nut and bolts of housing economy and the ancillaries that effect it, but after the past 18 months of these ups and downs and new hurdles that we have never seen, I give up!</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy, I don&#039;t think there is a &quot;peace with honor&quot; exit strategy possible.  

From patrick.net post  &quot;Staring Into the Abyss&quot;, &quot;The economist Ludwig von Mises is more succinct in his analysis:

    There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought on by credit expansion. The question is only whether the crisis should come sooner as a result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved.

I&#039;m a newbie to both mortgage origination and macroeconomics, but this is pretty straightforward.  Just like Morgan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy, I don&#8217;t think there is a &#8220;peace with honor&#8221; exit strategy possible.  </p>
<p>From patrick.net post  &#8220;Staring Into the Abyss&#8221;, &#8220;The economist Ludwig von Mises is more succinct in his analysis:</p>
<p>    There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought on by credit expansion. The question is only whether the crisis should come sooner as a result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a newbie to both mortgage origination and macroeconomics, but this is pretty straightforward.  Just like Morgan.</p>
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