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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Herb - you are probably right about the future rates!  I hope to be there with you in a few months.
I would like to encourage everyone to participate in your local Mortgage Broker Association chapter or any other organization that has lobby power. FNMA and FHLMC simply raising their caps will not do it. We need total product overhaul to FHA to make it more available to more brokers and homeowners. We need restructuring of the EA levels to provide assistance to people with some reasonable credit problems, but still a manageable risk as a lender. We need higher loan limits in targeted areas such as CA, NV, and FL.
And as I have said many times, find ways to work with borrowers that are buying foreclosures. It will help the value situation in the near future to have those foreclosures turn over, even at a reduced price. It will improve the appeal of the market, and it is better for values to have something turn at a low price than it is for a property to sit vacant forever and become an eyesore!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Herb &#8211; you are probably right about the future rates!  I hope to be there with you in a few months.<br />
I would like to encourage everyone to participate in your local Mortgage Broker Association chapter or any other organization that has lobby power. FNMA and FHLMC simply raising their caps will not do it. We need total product overhaul to FHA to make it more available to more brokers and homeowners. We need restructuring of the EA levels to provide assistance to people with some reasonable credit problems, but still a manageable risk as a lender. We need higher loan limits in targeted areas such as CA, NV, and FL.<br />
And as I have said many times, find ways to work with borrowers that are buying foreclosures. It will help the value situation in the near future to have those foreclosures turn over, even at a reduced price. It will improve the appeal of the market, and it is better for values to have something turn at a low price than it is for a property to sit vacant forever and become an eyesore!</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 03:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann &amp; Morgan,

Now that Wall Street are not buying subprime loans the layoffs were inevitable!  This economic move makes sense for companies that either change guidelines or went under and weeds out the industry.  Its going to take 4-6 months for Wall Street to buy short term notes in the form of 3,5,7, and 10/1 mortgage notes.  Wall Street isn&#039;t interested in buying those subprime products 2/28, 3/27, 2/38, or those crazy pay option arms, etc.  They  want the &quot;a &amp; b&quot; paper right now.  My friend sells mortgage notes and gives me insight within his profession.  As subprime quickly dries up &quot;a paper clients&quot; will be rewarded with great pricing on all products! I am seeing signs of this with the  30 year fix bank are offering in retail- 6.000-6.375 @ 0-.125 points to &quot;a paper home owners.&quot;  ING wholesale sales 3 products and have no problem selling their notes on Wall Street when you compare their products (5, 7, and helocs) to any central bank pricing in retail or wholesale!

POLITICIANS- They do not know what they&#039;re talking about on the mortgage issue!  Even if they allow Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac to increase the loan size to fix the problem, consumers facing foreclosure want qualify unless they can go SIVA to get a FHA loan!  And if Fannie &amp; Freddie can buy more notes with an increase to their cap,  they will be buying notes that are adjustable or adjusted where the consumer can&#039;t qualify to refi to begin with!  Fannie &amp; Freddie balance sheet will have a foreclosure REO like Countrywide!  The Fed already knows this.

Wholesale want go away but &quot;c-paper&quot; has disappear.  Countrywide use to offer HUGE jumbo loans!  Now they want dare lend over 2 million wirh 30 % down!  A sign of the times.  Finance major speaking hear before mortgage advisor  and I could go on and on about where the overall market is going.  But I&#039;ll tell you this! I am not selling prepay to my &quot;a paper&quot; clients because I want them to be in a position to refi in 4-6 months because I think rates will drop .75-1.00% on all products being offered now.


Herb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann &amp; Morgan,</p>
<p>Now that Wall Street are not buying subprime loans the layoffs were inevitable!  This economic move makes sense for companies that either change guidelines or went under and weeds out the industry.  Its going to take 4-6 months for Wall Street to buy short term notes in the form of 3,5,7, and 10/1 mortgage notes.  Wall Street isn&#8217;t interested in buying those subprime products 2/28, 3/27, 2/38, or those crazy pay option arms, etc.  They  want the &#8220;a &amp; b&#8221; paper right now.  My friend sells mortgage notes and gives me insight within his profession.  As subprime quickly dries up &#8220;a paper clients&#8221; will be rewarded with great pricing on all products! I am seeing signs of this with the  30 year fix bank are offering in retail- 6.000-6.375 @ 0-.125 points to &#8220;a paper home owners.&#8221;  ING wholesale sales 3 products and have no problem selling their notes on Wall Street when you compare their products (5, 7, and helocs) to any central bank pricing in retail or wholesale!</p>
<p>POLITICIANS- They do not know what they&#8217;re talking about on the mortgage issue!  Even if they allow Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac to increase the loan size to fix the problem, consumers facing foreclosure want qualify unless they can go SIVA to get a FHA loan!  And if Fannie &amp; Freddie can buy more notes with an increase to their cap,  they will be buying notes that are adjustable or adjusted where the consumer can&#8217;t qualify to refi to begin with!  Fannie &amp; Freddie balance sheet will have a foreclosure REO like Countrywide!  The Fed already knows this.</p>
<p>Wholesale want go away but &#8220;c-paper&#8221; has disappear.  Countrywide use to offer HUGE jumbo loans!  Now they want dare lend over 2 million wirh 30 % down!  A sign of the times.  Finance major speaking hear before mortgage advisor  and I could go on and on about where the overall market is going.  But I&#8217;ll tell you this! I am not selling prepay to my &#8220;a paper&#8221; clients because I want them to be in a position to refi in 4-6 months because I think rates will drop .75-1.00% on all products being offered now.</p>
<p>Herb</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 04:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great discussion guys.  I think the reason we are seeing the long term rates tick up is from the exact fears that you articulated Don - inflation.  Inflation erodes the dollar over time, so the return on the 30-year fixed loan decreases in step with that erosion.  Because long term rates are based more on global liquidity and less on US monetary policy the specter of unchecked inflation has long-term rates inching higher as a hedge against the future (predicted) erosion of the ROI on the loan over the longer-term.

Jeremy - Thanks for your contributions.  One of my favorite sayings is that &quot;where there&#039;s panic, there&#039;s opportunity&quot; there are a ton of niches that are really going like crazy (REO, foreclosure stuff mainly) that those positioned properly for the fall are doing very well.  It&#039;s important to look for opportunities in relevant areas of the overall business of real estate finance.

Ann- I am waiting to see the first big lender to announce 100% cessation of wholesale lending (and not due to pending implosion like IMPAC, but a strategic move away from wholesale) that will be the day when people who are barely making it by really freak out.

-- Morgan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great discussion guys.  I think the reason we are seeing the long term rates tick up is from the exact fears that you articulated Don &#8211; inflation.  Inflation erodes the dollar over time, so the return on the 30-year fixed loan decreases in step with that erosion.  Because long term rates are based more on global liquidity and less on US monetary policy the specter of unchecked inflation has long-term rates inching higher as a hedge against the future (predicted) erosion of the ROI on the loan over the longer-term.</p>
<p>Jeremy &#8211; Thanks for your contributions.  One of my favorite sayings is that &#8220;where there&#8217;s panic, there&#8217;s opportunity&#8221; there are a ton of niches that are really going like crazy (REO, foreclosure stuff mainly) that those positioned properly for the fall are doing very well.  It&#8217;s important to look for opportunities in relevant areas of the overall business of real estate finance.</p>
<p>Ann- I am waiting to see the first big lender to announce 100% cessation of wholesale lending (and not due to pending implosion like IMPAC, but a strategic move away from wholesale) that will be the day when people who are barely making it by really freak out.</p>
<p>&#8211; Morgan</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy, you make the classic point, we&#039;re in uncharted waters.

This blog is excellent.  Dittos to Morgan.

Yes, there are nasty people at each other&#039;s throats all over the place.

But like a favorite underwriter of mine said, the greedy people who got into this business in the last five years will go back to what they were doing before, being bartenders and used car salesmen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy, you make the classic point, we&#8217;re in uncharted waters.</p>
<p>This blog is excellent.  Dittos to Morgan.</p>
<p>Yes, there are nasty people at each other&#8217;s throats all over the place.</p>
<p>But like a favorite underwriter of mine said, the greedy people who got into this business in the last five years will go back to what they were doing before, being bartenders and used car salesmen.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff, Don.   Is anyone comfortable with the fact that the Canadian Dollar is the same as a US Dollar now?   No offense to our neighbors to the North, or as Homer Simpson calls them - &quot;America, Jr.&quot;, but I am outraged that the currency of what is supposed to be the largest economy in the world is now equal to something call a &quot;Loonie&quot;!
Yeah, it is hard to use past history as any kind of confidence buidler right now, because this is a very unique time we are in!
We all need to keep communicating with each other and pointing out advice and educational tips on the web like this.   Morgan - keep up the good work!
But I must say it is fun to watch people get nasty with each other, too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff, Don.   Is anyone comfortable with the fact that the Canadian Dollar is the same as a US Dollar now?   No offense to our neighbors to the North, or as Homer Simpson calls them &#8211; &#8220;America, Jr.&#8221;, but I am outraged that the currency of what is supposed to be the largest economy in the world is now equal to something call a &#8220;Loonie&#8221;!<br />
Yeah, it is hard to use past history as any kind of confidence buidler right now, because this is a very unique time we are in!<br />
We all need to keep communicating with each other and pointing out advice and educational tips on the web like this.   Morgan &#8211; keep up the good work!<br />
But I must say it is fun to watch people get nasty with each other, too!</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy, thank you!!  I knew rates were tied to long term bonds, but it&#039;s nice to see a written explanation.

What I&#039;m fearing is inflationary pressures.  The Dollar is tanking and people are pouring their money into gold.  This will keep bond rates HIGH to make them more atrractive, thus rates will continue to climb.  This could also pressure the Fed to hike up prime again.

It just scared me yesterday that we had 3 mid-day price changes, all for the worse.

Ann, the you&#039;re right about the retail and laying off, but if you go retail, aren&#039;t the rates higher?  WAMU is actually closing their retail center here in San Diego in November, but they are keeping their wholesale center open....so far!

Jeremy, you last paragraph is timely.  I&#039;m with a full brokerage (I can do real estate too).  I&#039;m taking advantage of all my networking and some of the networking organizations.  If you can do a conforming loan with a down payment, loans are a snap.  I still think that is good for first time home buyers with reasonable expectations, ie start with a decent 2-bedroom condos.   

The problem is that know-nothing greed meisters took over a 5 years ago and the gravy train is now at the glue factory.  

There&#039;s still business out there, but people need to get back to basics: Keep your client&#039;s best interests in mind and provide stellar customer service, while continually educating yourself and keep up with the latest technology.

Jeremy, you are right about the rates, they are still Killer Low.  Hey, I was in high school when prime was at something like 21.5 percent when Paul Volker shot up the rates because we had 18% inflation and gold was at $800 an ounce.

I&#039;ll shut up now. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy, thank you!!  I knew rates were tied to long term bonds, but it&#8217;s nice to see a written explanation.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m fearing is inflationary pressures.  The Dollar is tanking and people are pouring their money into gold.  This will keep bond rates HIGH to make them more atrractive, thus rates will continue to climb.  This could also pressure the Fed to hike up prime again.</p>
<p>It just scared me yesterday that we had 3 mid-day price changes, all for the worse.</p>
<p>Ann, the you&#8217;re right about the retail and laying off, but if you go retail, aren&#8217;t the rates higher?  WAMU is actually closing their retail center here in San Diego in November, but they are keeping their wholesale center open&#8230;.so far!</p>
<p>Jeremy, you last paragraph is timely.  I&#8217;m with a full brokerage (I can do real estate too).  I&#8217;m taking advantage of all my networking and some of the networking organizations.  If you can do a conforming loan with a down payment, loans are a snap.  I still think that is good for first time home buyers with reasonable expectations, ie start with a decent 2-bedroom condos.   </p>
<p>The problem is that know-nothing greed meisters took over a 5 years ago and the gravy train is now at the glue factory.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s still business out there, but people need to get back to basics: Keep your client&#8217;s best interests in mind and provide stellar customer service, while continually educating yourself and keep up with the latest technology.</p>
<p>Jeremy, you are right about the rates, they are still Killer Low.  Hey, I was in high school when prime was at something like 21.5 percent when Paul Volker shot up the rates because we had 18% inflation and gold was at $800 an ounce.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll shut up now. <img src='http://blownmortgage.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don - the rate jump is something that I have seen before right after a fed rate cut in the target rate.  I am not an economist, so I don&#039;t want to act like an expert, but what typically ahs happened is the bond market prices in the cut for days or even weeks in advance to the actual announcement.   They are specualting the market just like all of those property flippers that are getting crushed with foreclsoures!
Anyway, when the fed makes the move, especially one that cuts the discount rate as well, the banks and investors can get money at a low cost.  They then move that money from intermediate term products like the 10 year US Bond (a traditional indicator of mortgage rates) and into short term stocks.
Past history shows that the rate market will start trending back down within a few days.   So far today the bond yield has given back almost 6 bps of the 17 bps gain they had yesterday.
What happened yesterday was short term profit taking by major investors.   It is not something to be afraid of, in my opinion.

Ann - you are probably right.   Congressman and Senators - especially those who are approaching an election year - are looking to make the housing and mortgage market a platform on which to run.   It happened here in OH last year.   They need someone to blame, and who is the easy target?  Can&#039;t blame that guy working at Jiffy Lube that bought a $750k house on no doc, can you?   It&#039;s not his fault, right?  Someone had a gun to his head, obviously.

I still say we just need to take advantage of the market that is there.   Get involved in organizations for realtors and real estate investors.   A bad foreclosre market means it is a great foreclosure buyout market!   Get lined up with someone that can help you close those.   And typically those borrowers are qualified and intelligent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don &#8211; the rate jump is something that I have seen before right after a fed rate cut in the target rate.  I am not an economist, so I don&#8217;t want to act like an expert, but what typically ahs happened is the bond market prices in the cut for days or even weeks in advance to the actual announcement.   They are specualting the market just like all of those property flippers that are getting crushed with foreclsoures!<br />
Anyway, when the fed makes the move, especially one that cuts the discount rate as well, the banks and investors can get money at a low cost.  They then move that money from intermediate term products like the 10 year US Bond (a traditional indicator of mortgage rates) and into short term stocks.<br />
Past history shows that the rate market will start trending back down within a few days.   So far today the bond yield has given back almost 6 bps of the 17 bps gain they had yesterday.<br />
What happened yesterday was short term profit taking by major investors.   It is not something to be afraid of, in my opinion.</p>
<p>Ann &#8211; you are probably right.   Congressman and Senators &#8211; especially those who are approaching an election year &#8211; are looking to make the housing and mortgage market a platform on which to run.   It happened here in OH last year.   They need someone to blame, and who is the easy target?  Can&#8217;t blame that guy working at Jiffy Lube that bought a $750k house on no doc, can you?   It&#8217;s not his fault, right?  Someone had a gun to his head, obviously.</p>
<p>I still say we just need to take advantage of the market that is there.   Get involved in organizations for realtors and real estate investors.   A bad foreclosre market means it is a great foreclosure buyout market!   Get lined up with someone that can help you close those.   And typically those borrowers are qualified and intelligent.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is much worse to come...with many more lenders going under,going retail or laying off. Next will be new laws called for by congress and approved to go after and curb many of yesterdays lending practices..the overhall of the mortgage industry is just beginning...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is much worse to come&#8230;with many more lenders going under,going retail or laying off. Next will be new laws called for by congress and approved to go after and curb many of yesterdays lending practices..the overhall of the mortgage industry is just beginning&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The crazy thing that I have  noticed is since the .50 rate cuts the long term rates have increased. So the banks can borrow for less but, that does not mean they will pass the savings to the consumer. In my opinion rates where still at 30 year lows before the rate cuts. Let&#039;s not fool ourselves her folks, at the back in 2004 we had 4% money and property values were at a all time high. At 6.5 which is an awesome rate that 500,000 home does not look so good at that payment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The crazy thing that I have  noticed is since the .50 rate cuts the long term rates have increased. So the banks can borrow for less but, that does not mean they will pass the savings to the consumer. In my opinion rates where still at 30 year lows before the rate cuts. Let&#8217;s not fool ourselves her folks, at the back in 2004 we had 4% money and property values were at a all time high. At 6.5 which is an awesome rate that 500,000 home does not look so good at that payment.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Real Estate &#187; Decision One to Close Friday?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 08:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] unknown wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptThe subprime lending unit of HSBC has been struggling like many other wholesale mortgage lenders in recent months, and it looks like they may finally be calling it quits. I reported Decision One layoffs just over a week ago after a &#8230; [...]</description>
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