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		<title>By: Countrywide Continues to Try to Calm Nervous Brokers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Countrywide Continues to Try to Calm Nervous Brokers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 22:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] recent market situation. This is the third such communication in a series that started here, and continued here. What are you thoughts? Honest, genuine insight in to Countrywide or marketing drivel to placate an [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best of luck to you Herb!   I worked for Countrywide WLD for 2 and a half years and was doing well.   Left for a &quot;better opportunity&quot; back in Feb, and jumped onto a sinking ship!
WLD is having some waves here in my area, but I wish you and all of them the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best of luck to you Herb!   I worked for Countrywide WLD for 2 and a half years and was doing well.   Left for a &#8220;better opportunity&#8221; back in Feb, and jumped onto a sinking ship!<br />
WLD is having some waves here in my area, but I wish you and all of them the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy,
Point well taken.  I have a saying &quot;we&#039;re all sharks playing a game of poker.&quot;  I had great success at Countrywide retail for 2 years and continue to have success in wholesale.

Herb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy,<br />
Point well taken.  I have a saying &#8220;we&#8217;re all sharks playing a game of poker.&#8221;  I had great success at Countrywide retail for 2 years and continue to have success in wholesale.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to quickly address one statement that I am hearing over and over about the fact that corr lenders, retail lenders, and banks do not have to have licensed loan officers.   I have worked in all 3.   I now work at a bank, and it is not the wild west that you may think.  I can only speak for the bank at which I work, but there was a very detailed background check and drug screen before I was hired.  Banks have way too much to lose to hire any cowboys, and I think that is why the government does not care to spend mroe taxpayer money on doing additional levels of licensing.   That being said, I am sure there have been some very underhanded people that have worked at banks.
Also, at least in my state, corr lenders/mortgage bankers are subject to the same licensing requirements as brokers.  The only benefit is that they do not have to disclose yield spread.
Everyone hates the people that are doing okay now, which is mainly retail and banks.    5 years ago they hated the brokers.
The first two comments on this blog by David and Mike, who I am pretty sure that I know, nailed it on the head.   Know your business, know your industry, and find a way to take advantage of the business channels that are available.  I am personally having success with investor property and rehab - if you have access to these programs, get on it.  If you are waiting for things to just go back to the way they were a couple of years ago, then you are in trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to quickly address one statement that I am hearing over and over about the fact that corr lenders, retail lenders, and banks do not have to have licensed loan officers.   I have worked in all 3.   I now work at a bank, and it is not the wild west that you may think.  I can only speak for the bank at which I work, but there was a very detailed background check and drug screen before I was hired.  Banks have way too much to lose to hire any cowboys, and I think that is why the government does not care to spend mroe taxpayer money on doing additional levels of licensing.   That being said, I am sure there have been some very underhanded people that have worked at banks.<br />
Also, at least in my state, corr lenders/mortgage bankers are subject to the same licensing requirements as brokers.  The only benefit is that they do not have to disclose yield spread.<br />
Everyone hates the people that are doing okay now, which is mainly retail and banks.    5 years ago they hated the brokers.<br />
The first two comments on this blog by David and Mike, who I am pretty sure that I know, nailed it on the head.   Know your business, know your industry, and find a way to take advantage of the business channels that are available.  I am personally having success with investor property and rehab &#8211; if you have access to these programs, get on it.  If you are waiting for things to just go back to the way they were a couple of years ago, then you are in trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how Countrywide has also been sending e-mails to all their Business Partner telling them they were commited to non-prime for the long haul. Just another form of BS. They tell their employees and business partners one thing and then you hear something different on the 6:00 news when they report the opposite to the S.E.C. I guess you can lie to your employees and customers but you can&#039;t lie to the SEC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how Countrywide has also been sending e-mails to all their Business Partner telling them they were commited to non-prime for the long haul. Just another form of BS. They tell their employees and business partners one thing and then you hear something different on the 6:00 news when they report the opposite to the S.E.C. I guess you can lie to your employees and customers but you can&#8217;t lie to the SEC.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 01:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started in retail in this business - the only line of work I have ever done - as an intern during my senior year of college.   I did not know what GFE stood for.  I thought the middle letter was an expletive.   But I know I had a manager that encouraged me to get people to sign section 32 forms and TIL&#039;s that were blank and fill them in later (not as much automation when I started.  I&#039;m old). I am as much to blame for doing it when I knew it was wrong, especially since I was on a salary of $24k and did not get anything extra out of it!:)  Luckily, I did not close any loans of that nature, but the ones I was able to get closed were still not good for the borrower, even if I did end up doing them within all aspects of lending laws of the time.
However, I also worked for retail people that were honest and wanted to earn business with respect.   I also worked as a broker for a long time, and the same can be said over there.   There was good and bad.
What has caused the problems in the business is a perfect storm of several aspects - collapsing values, tightening credit standards on Wall Street, poor consumer confidence, and a wholesale market that is pricing and putting guidelines out of reach.  And poor, negligent, and unethical business decisions in EVERY arena have contributed.  No one sector is totally to blame.
Anyone that wants to sit here and say that this channel is better than the other and so on should just remember that all, ALL lines of work have good and bad people.   Heck, I saw in the news recently about a minister out here beating his wife to death.   Does that mean that all ministers are bad?   Is a minister allowed to do stuff like that just because of the sector in which he works?   We are all accountable for how we conduct our business every day.
Know your product and your industry, educate yourself daily on your business and all ancillary channels, develop and maintain a plan for your business, and handle yourself with class and integrity, and you will succeed no matter what you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started in retail in this business &#8211; the only line of work I have ever done &#8211; as an intern during my senior year of college.   I did not know what GFE stood for.  I thought the middle letter was an expletive.   But I know I had a manager that encouraged me to get people to sign section 32 forms and TIL&#8217;s that were blank and fill them in later (not as much automation when I started.  I&#8217;m old). I am as much to blame for doing it when I knew it was wrong, especially since I was on a salary of $24k and did not get anything extra out of it!:)  Luckily, I did not close any loans of that nature, but the ones I was able to get closed were still not good for the borrower, even if I did end up doing them within all aspects of lending laws of the time.<br />
However, I also worked for retail people that were honest and wanted to earn business with respect.   I also worked as a broker for a long time, and the same can be said over there.   There was good and bad.<br />
What has caused the problems in the business is a perfect storm of several aspects &#8211; collapsing values, tightening credit standards on Wall Street, poor consumer confidence, and a wholesale market that is pricing and putting guidelines out of reach.  And poor, negligent, and unethical business decisions in EVERY arena have contributed.  No one sector is totally to blame.<br />
Anyone that wants to sit here and say that this channel is better than the other and so on should just remember that all, ALL lines of work have good and bad people.   Heck, I saw in the news recently about a minister out here beating his wife to death.   Does that mean that all ministers are bad?   Is a minister allowed to do stuff like that just because of the sector in which he works?   We are all accountable for how we conduct our business every day.<br />
Know your product and your industry, educate yourself daily on your business and all ancillary channels, develop and maintain a plan for your business, and handle yourself with class and integrity, and you will succeed no matter what you do.</p>
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		<title>By: 2007 September 17</title>
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		<dc:creator>2007 September 17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 23:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Carl Retail Acct. Exec. Full Spectrum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Retail Acct. Exec. Full Spectrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 23:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t bash the brokers; they are not the reason for this crisis. Have you all heard in the media that we don&#039;t get paid more for sub-prime loans? Guess what, in retail we do. Lots more in fact writing prime was something I tried to steer away from. I will not give out the old commission plan, but on our end ultimately we get paid more for sub-prime. Not aware of how it worked for the wholesale/broker end. You should see the look on our manager?s face when we would bring him/her a 415k sub-prime deal, pure delight. More revenue, more Bps. Plain and simple. My office is slowly crumbling, much to my delight. Did I mention the auditors are starting to dig into our past files? Good times ahead!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t bash the brokers; they are not the reason for this crisis. Have you all heard in the media that we don&#8217;t get paid more for sub-prime loans? Guess what, in retail we do. Lots more in fact writing prime was something I tried to steer away from. I will not give out the old commission plan, but on our end ultimately we get paid more for sub-prime. Not aware of how it worked for the wholesale/broker end. You should see the look on our manager?s face when we would bring him/her a 415k sub-prime deal, pure delight. More revenue, more Bps. Plain and simple. My office is slowly crumbling, much to my delight. Did I mention the auditors are starting to dig into our past files? Good times ahead!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Boese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Boese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 18:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone worried about Brokers disappearing is missing a major reason for the existence of such 3rd Party Originators: Marketing Capacity. Specifically, major banks are handcuffed when it comes to the forms of marketing that govern lead generation. Banks necessarily require degrees of separation from illegal telemarketing operations, deceptive/fraudulent/illegal mailers, data theft, spyware/malware, spamming, black hat seo practices, etc. The bottom line is that lead generation  has a substantial impact on the success of a company---and Banks are permanently handicapped in this matter. So while I?m not suggesting that Brokers are engaging in these practices I am absolutely stating that Banks face great risk of being found (knowingly or unknowingly) in collusion with such lead generation companies. Brokers, on the other hand, can buy leads anywhere and truly claim ignorance if the source is later found to be illegal or merely unpopular. 
  Rather than ramble further on the topic I?ll leave it at this: Brokers have greater leeway than Banks in creating and/or accessing demand (especially of a sort Banks cannot risk). As long as Brokers can do this they will broker that demand into a reasonable income.
   Another reason Brokers will continue to exist is because of the Realtor Connection. Look, every Broker knows that they can beat the rates and fees of any major Bank every single day of the week?and any experienced retail employee reading this knows that?s true, too. So when you consider the regulations that prohibit major Banks from developing relationships with Realtors you are left with precious few motives for Realtors to work with Banks. Additionally, there has been a push among Real Estate Brokers over the past few years to vertically grow their business by brokering loans in-house (thus becoming Mortgage Brokers). For these reasons and several others you are left with Realtors decisively referring loan transactions to Brokers.
   So again, my feeling is that if Brokers can control a measurable amount of the demand then money is there to be made. Perhaps the model will get some tweaking and modification but that?s the nature of business, anyway?and savvy, fast-reacting people within this business will continue to find ways to prosper---especially in a market that has vacuumed up the competition.

   In relation to Mortgage Fraud we are finally seeing Banks willing to speak some truth, i.e., that ?The Emperor Has No Clothes?. Basically, over the last few years a large number of loans should have never made it passed Quality Control (Underwriting, etc) and only now are these types of loan submissions being rejected. The fact is Banks are finally implementing the common-sense Underwriting rules that they willfully neglected for years. In other words, with the strings having tightened they?ve finally found the courage to tell Brokers that ?Your Loan is Naked---it has no clothes?. The truth is, of course, that it isn?t ?courage? they found: the Banks ?wink winked? and ?nudge nudged? at a variety of practices over the past few years for profit and now they are discontinuing those practices for profit. 
   Some people may wonder why Banks looked the other way (at minimum) and advocated (at maximum) such loose practices. Afterall, wouldn?t profit of that sort come at a substantial risk? Not really, actually?because the Banks weren?t holding all of that risky money. Everyone on the inside is aware of the ?art? of securitizing loans. With out getting into the minutiae, Banks sold off the riskiest paper in ways that affected them the least. So understand this clearly: The loss incurred by Banks is not one of default but of volume (The reason default affected Banks is because they were funding loans with leveraged money and the real lenders stopped providing the funds to continue the buy-and-sell cycle). 
   So what am I getting at? That Banks did not truly care about the quality of many of the loans they funded. They knew that as long as Real Estate appreciated they could play refinancing?s version of Musical Chairs; as long as the music played the borrowers could use the equity provided by appreciation to subsidize their finances. The Banks knew that the goal was to make as much money as possible while the music played?and now the music stopped. A number of the lender-start-ups are gone and they?ve taken a number or established players with them---players that always knew the Emperor Had No Clothes but refused to let some start-ups snag all of that gorgeous market share. Frankly, I believe they?ve received their just desserts. The investors are hung out to dry and everyone that was selling cars in 2002 can go back to selling cars.

   The Banks could be further implicated for the creation and proliferation of ill-conceived loan programs that were designed entirely for an appreciating market. Consider, for example, that subprime loans were written so that the ARM Reset occurred simoultaneously with the expiration of the Prepayment Penalty. In the midst of depreciation this left a whole class of people that did not have the equity necessary to pay the costs of refinancing and the prepayment penalty, yet also did not have the income necessary to make the monthly payments at the higher, newly adjusted rate. This is a scenario that spirals into late payments and default when the solution could?ve been as simple as making sure the Prepay expires prior to the reset date. But hey! Those subprime lenders loved all that ?Prepay? money when they their borrowers refied out of those loans while they still had the equity, right? So that?s one example of greed and senseless loan programs aiding the demise of many lenders. Believe me, there are plenty more that I could list?but in the end, it?s Sunday morning and I?ve got some more football to watch. Then I?ll be working some more on my marketing strategies. After that I?ll lay back and smile?because the competition has dried up. And afterall, I?m here in the mortgage capital of the country---Good ol? Orange County?a place where everyone and their mothers were in the business. It?s also the Mercedes Benz capital of the world. So if you put all that together ya know what it means? It means right now you can get used 2005 SL500 for pretty cheaply  around here?and I love a bargain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone worried about Brokers disappearing is missing a major reason for the existence of such 3rd Party Originators: Marketing Capacity. Specifically, major banks are handcuffed when it comes to the forms of marketing that govern lead generation. Banks necessarily require degrees of separation from illegal telemarketing operations, deceptive/fraudulent/illegal mailers, data theft, spyware/malware, spamming, black hat seo practices, etc. The bottom line is that lead generation  has a substantial impact on the success of a company&#8212;and Banks are permanently handicapped in this matter. So while I?m not suggesting that Brokers are engaging in these practices I am absolutely stating that Banks face great risk of being found (knowingly or unknowingly) in collusion with such lead generation companies. Brokers, on the other hand, can buy leads anywhere and truly claim ignorance if the source is later found to be illegal or merely unpopular.<br />
  Rather than ramble further on the topic I?ll leave it at this: Brokers have greater leeway than Banks in creating and/or accessing demand (especially of a sort Banks cannot risk). As long as Brokers can do this they will broker that demand into a reasonable income.<br />
   Another reason Brokers will continue to exist is because of the Realtor Connection. Look, every Broker knows that they can beat the rates and fees of any major Bank every single day of the week?and any experienced retail employee reading this knows that?s true, too. So when you consider the regulations that prohibit major Banks from developing relationships with Realtors you are left with precious few motives for Realtors to work with Banks. Additionally, there has been a push among Real Estate Brokers over the past few years to vertically grow their business by brokering loans in-house (thus becoming Mortgage Brokers). For these reasons and several others you are left with Realtors decisively referring loan transactions to Brokers.<br />
   So again, my feeling is that if Brokers can control a measurable amount of the demand then money is there to be made. Perhaps the model will get some tweaking and modification but that?s the nature of business, anyway?and savvy, fast-reacting people within this business will continue to find ways to prosper&#8212;especially in a market that has vacuumed up the competition.</p>
<p>   In relation to Mortgage Fraud we are finally seeing Banks willing to speak some truth, i.e., that ?The Emperor Has No Clothes?. Basically, over the last few years a large number of loans should have never made it passed Quality Control (Underwriting, etc) and only now are these types of loan submissions being rejected. The fact is Banks are finally implementing the common-sense Underwriting rules that they willfully neglected for years. In other words, with the strings having tightened they?ve finally found the courage to tell Brokers that ?Your Loan is Naked&#8212;it has no clothes?. The truth is, of course, that it isn?t ?courage? they found: the Banks ?wink winked? and ?nudge nudged? at a variety of practices over the past few years for profit and now they are discontinuing those practices for profit.<br />
   Some people may wonder why Banks looked the other way (at minimum) and advocated (at maximum) such loose practices. Afterall, wouldn?t profit of that sort come at a substantial risk? Not really, actually?because the Banks weren?t holding all of that risky money. Everyone on the inside is aware of the ?art? of securitizing loans. With out getting into the minutiae, Banks sold off the riskiest paper in ways that affected them the least. So understand this clearly: The loss incurred by Banks is not one of default but of volume (The reason default affected Banks is because they were funding loans with leveraged money and the real lenders stopped providing the funds to continue the buy-and-sell cycle).<br />
   So what am I getting at? That Banks did not truly care about the quality of many of the loans they funded. They knew that as long as Real Estate appreciated they could play refinancing?s version of Musical Chairs; as long as the music played the borrowers could use the equity provided by appreciation to subsidize their finances. The Banks knew that the goal was to make as much money as possible while the music played?and now the music stopped. A number of the lender-start-ups are gone and they?ve taken a number or established players with them&#8212;players that always knew the Emperor Had No Clothes but refused to let some start-ups snag all of that gorgeous market share. Frankly, I believe they?ve received their just desserts. The investors are hung out to dry and everyone that was selling cars in 2002 can go back to selling cars.</p>
<p>   The Banks could be further implicated for the creation and proliferation of ill-conceived loan programs that were designed entirely for an appreciating market. Consider, for example, that subprime loans were written so that the ARM Reset occurred simoultaneously with the expiration of the Prepayment Penalty. In the midst of depreciation this left a whole class of people that did not have the equity necessary to pay the costs of refinancing and the prepayment penalty, yet also did not have the income necessary to make the monthly payments at the higher, newly adjusted rate. This is a scenario that spirals into late payments and default when the solution could?ve been as simple as making sure the Prepay expires prior to the reset date. But hey! Those subprime lenders loved all that ?Prepay? money when they their borrowers refied out of those loans while they still had the equity, right? So that?s one example of greed and senseless loan programs aiding the demise of many lenders. Believe me, there are plenty more that I could list?but in the end, it?s Sunday morning and I?ve got some more football to watch. Then I?ll be working some more on my marketing strategies. After that I?ll lay back and smile?because the competition has dried up. And afterall, I?m here in the mortgage capital of the country&#8212;Good ol? Orange County?a place where everyone and their mothers were in the business. It?s also the Mercedes Benz capital of the world. So if you put all that together ya know what it means? It means right now you can get used 2005 SL500 for pretty cheaply  around here?and I love a bargain.</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 06:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Realize there is a difference between retail, wholesale, and correspondent lending!  I worked both sides of retail and wholesale, but never for any correspondent lender.  Its funny how you don&#039;t need a state department realestate license for retail or a correspondence!  But when you read between the lines with any major bank look how many of them our dropping the correspondent lending, and scaling back retail guidelines and products.  I worked at countrywide for over 2 years before returning to wholesale and believe me I think everyone should be license by the state in which they reside if they come into the mortgage profession.</description>
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